Anna Pasternak on the Beach
Gentlemen,
The backlash against Feminism has officially begun from within their own ranks.
It started only as a few drops leaking through the dam.
But now it’s starting to look more like a trickle.
The latest evidence to support this comes from self-proclaimed feminist and writer Anna Pasternak.
She has seemingly thrown in the towel on her “in-control” feminist lifestyle after finally realizing that being a lonely, aging, hard and masculine woman really sucks.
She’s writes a detailed article about trying to regain her femininity back.
And you will also notice a very prominent reference to Russian Women there too.
As much as I applaud her cautious article that casts a shadow over Feminism I’m still quite sure that this lady is a little late to the party and is going to have a exceedingly difficult time trying to find her “womanly soul”.
(The great irony here is that “Anna Pasternak” is a very Russian name to start with. )
The odds are against her but I still genuinely wish her luck and all the best.
One more thing..
After you finish reading her article below you might want to take a moment to revisit an earlier post I wrote up on this very same subject.
Fast track to femininity:
Why competing with men has left women out of touch with their feminine side
By Anna PasternakRecently, the media has been awash with articles suggesting that career women are to relationships what garlic is to a vampire – the kiss of death.
We’re unable to sustain meaningful unions, apparently, because men are intimidated by our intellect, threatened by our higher earning potential and turned off by our controlling, capable, yet powerful personalities.
While this has been my personal experience – I was left by the father of my daughter (now nearly five) three years ago when I was the higher earner – I think that the issue goes far deeper.
It is more psychological than sociological.
The problem, I believe, is not so much with career women per se, but that women are increasingly out of balance with themselves and, therefore, with men. I know I am.
In the past three years of being single, I have been on a handful of dates.
Two years ago I went to dinner with a doctor who told me that I ‘wasn’t in touch with my femininity’ as I ‘didn’t flirt or wear much make-up’.
His diagnosis also included the undeniable fact that I was in ‘acute need of affection’.
The last straw came four months ago when I had dinner with a successful, high-profile entrepreneur who literally screamed at me that I was ‘so in control it was scary’ – although he did backtrack when I dropped my head towards my plate and started sobbing.
As well as being hurt, I was shocked and outraged.
What, I thought, had become of modern man’s chivalry?But later, I grudgingly reasoned, maybe he had a point – what had become of my femininity?
The difficulty for many of today’s career women is that in order to compete with men, we’ve morphed into them.
We’ve worked ourselves half to death in order to conquer the career ladder, yet in the process we’ve trampled our core femininity into the ground.
mum juggling work and kids
De-feminising: Juggling work, children and all of life’s trimmings can leave a woman little time for herself
These days, as a single parent and sole breadwinner, I often feel more masculine than feminine.
Working full-time, making every decision, paying every bill, driving myself everywhere, booking tickets for holidays, lugging the Christmas tree in – it’s all completely de-feminising.
My friend Sophie, 46, who runs her own design company and is a single mother to two boys aged nine and 11, agrees.
She has been single for six years, since her husband left her for another woman.
Blonde, attractive and kind, she hasn’t been on a date since he walked out.
‘I have absolutely no idea how to be a woman any more,’ she says. ‘Because I run my business, my home and make all the decisions about the boys, I feel totally unfeminine.
‘I’m terrified of dating as I have no idea how to behave.
‘I would love a partner but I feel unattractive, untrusting, unsexy and completely alone.’
That, of course, is the crux for many of us.
We honestly believed that if we worked hard, we could have it all and more.
Yet so many of us have ended up lonely, exhausted and broken-hearted, with far less of what we bargained for.
According to a Mintel report, 39 per cent of the adult population is single – that is 19 million people – and this is expected to rise to 41 per cent by 2011.
Clearly, men and women are increasingly out of sync, and the key could be in learning to re-balance ourselves as women and reclaim our essential softness.
So I embarked on a psychological make-over to see if I could fast-track my femininity.
First, consultant stylist Kira Jolliffe, who runs a company called Wardrobe Woman, appraised my closet.
Once she got over the shock of how few clothes I have, she immediately sussed that I ‘compartmentalise’ my wardrobe.
I live in jeans and shirts to write and do the school run, wear nicer tops to work meetings and have a couple of dresses for going out.
But as I rarely go out, the more elegant clothes hardly get worn.
She was correct in saying that I ‘try to bring out my femininity for the occasion, as opposed to being feminine whatever the occasion’.
My homework was to mix up my wardrobe, ditch my beloved chunky loafers and not save smarter clothes for some mythical special occasion.
‘Femininity is about an internal experience with your self and clothes are about the external appearance,’ she explained.
‘But your clothes can be a tool to remind you of it; a way of tapping into the essence of who you are.
‘This has nothing to do with showing cleavage, for example, as there is nothing less sexy than enforced femininity. Femininity is all about being relaxed with yourself.’
The problem for the career woman, according to Jolliffe, is that in the corporate world, women often use dress as an armour.
They over-do their hair and make-up and then it becomes difficult to drop the armour, both sartorially and emotionally, for a date.
‘But to equate femininity with florals and chiffon is childish and simplistic,’ she cautioned.
‘To suddenly wear floaty tops in the office smacks of trying too hard.
‘WAGs, for example, are the antithesis of femininity because they reek of desperation. Artifice is the least sexy thing. Femininity is about authenticity.’
After a week of trying to up my feminine ante by wearing nicer shoes and adding jewellery or a pretty top, I understand why Jolliffe insisted: ‘If it feels false, don’t do it.’
I spent the first day staggering around in a little skirt and heels, feeling ridiculous considering my life in the country.
‘Sexiness is about getting the balance between the feminine and masculine with panache and confidence,’ she had said.
‘It’s about being soignee, not overdone. It’s about being vulnerable and empathetic without being a victim.
‘But you need to be realistic about your sexual identity because being sexy isn’t necessarily being feminine.
‘My advice to career women is to get into the habit of rubbing really expensive body cream in after a bath.
‘It’s amazing how being at one with your body puts you more instinctively in touch with your physical self-esteem.’
The most valuable lesson I’ve gained has been to wear the clothes I enjoy, instead of saving them for best.
Interestingly, I’ve had more comments on my appearance lately. I’m beginning to see that femininity is like a flower. Water it by paying attention and it will blossom.
Next, I went to see renowned cosmetic surgeon Dr Jean-Louis Sebagh.
Responsible for some of the most beautiful faces in the world, including Cindy Crawford, he is nicknamed the Botox King.
He had just returned from Russia, where he took part in a documentary on the subject of women and femininity.
‘Russian women don’t have that hardness of women in England and America,’ he said.
‘They get their men because they are extremely feminine and they listen to their men, yet they are not regressive. They have managed to hold on to an old-fashioned prettiness.
‘In contrast, most of the women I see in Europe have become warriors. They are feisty and aggressive.
‘They see relationships as business transactions, and they treat dating the same way they climb the corporate ladder, which makes them look and seem hard.’
So can he help feminise a woman?
‘My job is to make a woman look attractive to a man, but I cannot change her character.
‘I can soften her looks, but I can’t get a woman in touch with her soft side.’
But how do we do that?
‘I think that it is difficult to be a woman today,’ he adds.
‘Our society is quite harsh, and if you want to enjoy the materialism, then you lose your soul.
‘If women can stay away from their corporate brains, then they can tune into this softness and core values.’
Interestingly, Dr Sebagh says that his happiest clients are in their 50s and 60s.
‘They are in touch with what matters in their life. They want men for companionship, not some lifestyle choice.
‘They have souls and are far more authentic.
‘Ironically, I believe that the credit crunch will force more women towards that authenticity because they will no longer be able to pretend that they are rich or successful.
‘How can you find yourself if you are fake and pretending to be someone that you are not?’
Some may consider Dr Sebagh’s helping hand towards the appearance of softness fake in itself.
However, when he administered Botox to me, the results were fantastic.
Far from looking taut or frozen, I looked like me, only less worn and haggard. I look fresher – and because I look softer, I feel softer.
However, as both Kira Jolliffe and Dr Sebagh concur, the appearance of femininity is meaningless without the inner experience of it.
Psychologist Jeff Allen, founder of Psychology of Vision, who coaches for relationship and business success, said: ‘Independent women look like they are tough and have their acts together, which is appealing, but really they are well-defended because they don’t want to get hurt or be vulnerable.
‘But to be feminine, at some level you have got to be open.
‘Being open allows connection, intuition and compassion-these are the feminine gifts.’
So how do we open ourselves up to our feminine energy, especially if we also want to survive career-wise in a male-dominated world?
‘The feminine principle is about allowing things to unfold and happen, not always interfering.
‘Career women think that they have to be in control to make it happen, but if they stop and tap into some kind of emotional intelligence and empathy, it makes them better problem-solvers.’
According to Allen, you cannot have true success or a successful relationship without the balance of masculine and feminine: ‘The reason career women feel lonely within themselves and often have a deep sense of failure is because they are not connected to their hearts.
‘I’m not saying career women should chuck it all away, but if they connect to things that really matter to them, if they start to appreciate little beautiful things every day – literally stop and smell the roses – then what they will have to offer will be really quite profound.’
Allen also says we must stop competing with men, especially in relationships, as competition is totally destructive.
Researching this article, I feel that I have undergone a subtle yet seismic change.
I can see that being feminine is about allowing oneself to yield more and control less.
Two nights ago, I went to dinner with a male friend, and for the first time in years I looked more feminine, acted more femininely and, crucially, felt more feminine.
Not in a simpering way, but with a profound realisation that being able to show vulnerability isn’t a female weakness but a sign of a woman’s strength.
(You can read the original article here)
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Hey GL;
Interesting take, but keep in mind always, “We reap what we sow.” She is only feeling what she has been trained or has tried to take from her men all her life. It is a lifestyle choice.
Now that her and her high society soulmates have raped, pillaged and burned all their men to the ground, they look back and wonder. Well what remorse is there for the ones who they have attempted to and even destroyed in the past? Oh well, that’s life. Did she and her friends not screw the ex’s bad enough in the divorce?
I the Oxford english dictionary, sympathy is between shit and syphillis. Boo hoo Anna. Live with what you have created dearie.
Sorry if I seem harsh, but I’ve heard this crap from others like her before. Perhaps the Beamer need an overhaul, eh?
Exellent!
Believe me or not, I am planning to post something like “women-manager? no, thank you!” since long time. But thanks to your inspiring topic, I will try to write it asap.
Interesting article, thanks for posting it and putting it light of Russian Women. When I was in Moscow I heard it said that Russian women were strong enough to be women. I better understand that now.
I wonder when the counterstrike from the “skull and crossbones” (ultra hardcore/pirate) feminists will hit Anna? They’ll simply state that relationships of any form with men are undesirable and impossible, and not to even try. They’ll scoff at and attack any woman who they will label “revisionist” then they’ll present their alternative. [see this link on one such situation between a hardcore feminazi mother and a her more moderate daughter http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1021293/How-mothers-fanatical-feminist-views-tore-apart-daughter-The-Color-Purple-author.html
Such women will say “You don’t have to be lonely if your lacking a man, simply find a good, strong and equal woman!”, they’ll promote lesbianism as a viable and acceptable relationship alternative to a relationship with any man(who is a lesser lifeform in their eyes). Anything so that these pirate feminists don’t have to look like they’re give up ground to men.
I do believe a backlash is building against modern feminism but it won’t come in the form of the old guard changing their minds. Like the old Soviet system, it wasn’t the old leaders who changed the system, it was a younger more dynamic leader who simply said, this isn’t working, need to change or things will fall apart.
I think the current, rabid form of feminism will try to remold it’s image and it will ultimately fail, like Gorbachev(a former loyal communist), who tried to fix the broken communist system but ended up bringing it down.
When will all this happen? My guess is it will take a few more years, possibly a decade before the current feminist system collapses. One of the encouraging things I’ve seen is that the younger generation of women (< age30) are doing their own thing and making up their own minds, they don’t generally wave the patriot banner of radical feminism because they don’t really understand why there is a gender war in the first place.
It’s amazing to me how much of this book is covered in this blog. As I read it I kept thinking to myself “hey GL’s said that before.” I hope that this gains a following. I’m sure it won’t be for most women for now. It took many years to reach where we are now, it will take many to return back to normal.
I can think of so many younger ladies that I know of that fall into the career take it all lifestyle. Most are single, many with children, many divorced, and many headed down that same lonely path.
Just to add on some observations about this article, it kind of sounds like she wants her cake and to be able to eat it as well.
In some of the paragraphs she still focuses on looking and acting feminine but looking and acting is not being feminine. The essence of being feminine or masculine comes from deep within a person, you can’t really hide or fake it.
All I know is that Botox and wearing a new dress isn’t going to get her anywhere. Men these days have become a lot more savvy about spotting a ploy and seeing if there is any insincerity present. I smell a ploy by some of the older feminists to “woo” back some of the weaker minded men under feminist terms and it won’t work.
Also did anyone notice the kind of men she dated? Only the socially successful types, such as a doctor and an entrepreneur, men who need a strong woman competing with them in their lives as much as they need a tax audit.
I wonder if feminine=weak in the author’s mind and she doesn’t want to give up her “power” and control. For the past 40 years women have been taught and have told themselves that they can have it all and have nothing to apologize for or to regret, now they’re beginning to realize the cost of the devil’s bargain they’ve made. How do you get your soul back after you’ve sold out for power, money and success?
How unutterably sad for this poor soul, and all her generation, that their education has left them so poorly equipped to be real people, in the sense that personhood consists of *two* — the feminine as well as the masculine. They’ve been brought up and educated only to be unsuccessful men, not successful (i.e., feminine) women.
But I’m not so sure that feminism will ever go away, much as we might wish it to. After all, it got its start in the 1800s, with the suffragettes — then went underground after World War II, during which women had discovered that working outside the home *wasn’t* all it was cracked up to be — then resurfaced in the 1960s, which current manifestation we are now trying to reverse — it keeps coming back to, “What do women want?” And in the West, I don’t think they themselves know. Whereas in the East, with its Orthodox culture, they don’t even need to ask that question: Women want to be women, with all the perks that go along with that responsibility, and most of all, they want their men to be men. Me, I’m so grateful to be of Russian descent — even though I have to live in the West, I’ve got my priorities straight.
You keep this site up and running! Men NEED it, and frankly, so do we women!
Hello Everyone and Thanks for your comments.
Axina, I’ll be looking forward to your next article on this very important subject.
Jacque, I can certainly understand the real desire for some serious reap what you sow payback.. But the point that I’ve tried to make in the past is that this payback doesn’t need to (nor should it) come from any of us.
Mother nature can be one very nasty accountant and she always balances the books when the time comes for the accounts to be collected on. Aside from spreading awareness to other Men and Women as to what’s really going on like you have.. All you really need to do is just to sit back and watch as a fire basically consumes itself because there’s no fuel left.. ie. decent men willing to get married to them..
DLS, I love that comment..”Russian Women are strong enough to be Women” I’ll have to remember it.. Thanks..
GRY, I’m sure that there are going to be tons of “Vested Feminist” who are completely threatened that theirs a backlash starting to happen. These Vested Feminist honestly have nothing left in their lives.. they’ve basically wasted it so the only thing left for them is to promote more denial and of course attack the dissenters. I have much more faith in the dissenters however. Like you mentioned the younger generation is on their side and they will probably wake up and question their mother’s feminist beliefs and say whoah.. “But maybe I want to keep a good man mother..”
Also I agree that this Anna Paternak has a very long road to travel and she quite honestly will probably not make it back to her feminine self. Power is a very addictive thing and she will be hard pressed to give up especially since she’s older. In other words.. being a control freak maybe the only thing that she’s left with since it’s probably too later for her to try to be a young feminine lady again.. and being a control freak automatically spells isolation for her. Sad for her to make this realization but it’s true. I must give her credit for not going into denial about this like most feminist would. She’s taking the hard but truthful road out on this I believe.
Sunny, thanks for pointing that out. I knew when I started this blog that I was putting myself out there in trying to speak the truth.. Always nice to know that I have some good company..
Mrs. Mutton, I agree with you that the media and educational system in the US has for the most part brainwashed these women to a large degree. But here’s the really harsh deal.. At the end of the day God or Society doesn’t care about the brainwashing and won’t cut them any slack for doing evil things.
This is one of the hardest things in life to accept.. that no matter what any of our backgrounds are in terms of educational, societal, parental, or cultural influences we’ve been through..
At the end of the day we are COMPLETELY HELD RESPONSIBLE for our own lives and actions.
Most people in my mind simply can’t break through this barrier especially many women who rely on a great deal of peer validation to make their decisions and form their attitudes.
Is this a tragedy? Absolutely.. But it was also a tragedy for the German people who followed Hitler in spite of the Nazi’s iron grip control on the media and society. The world and history still held them accountable in a big way. The hero’s from this time were the ones who had the courage to dissent or to fight the Nazi system even at the height of it’s power. That’s what historical times do. It either creates heroes or villains. And it’s incredibly hard to be a hero.. and quite easy just to go along with the masses and be a complacent or active villain.
I believe that Kathleen Parker in the previous post made a good point to spell out the 3 phases of Feminism and how it’s completely evolved into an evil and destructive force that it is today. She’s preaching a reformation from within and not an outright abandonment of it. Regardless, it’s still a step in the right direction.
Thanks again for your encouragement on the site too by the way.. I hope both of your kids will get the chance to read through it.
GL
This is far too little, waaayyyy too late. Actions are just like bullets, there’s no recalling them and no taking them back once the deed is done. Women are just now waking up to the fact they’re royally screwed, but now they have to lie in the bed of razor wire they made for themselves. They will have to live with the results of their choices, just as the German people had to live with the results of following Hitler like lemmings. So many men’s lives have been damaged here beyond repair, and their children’s as well, that there’s no undoing the damage feminism’s done for decades at best.
Taras
Here is a link to one of the greatest secret weapons against the feminist machine…
http://visionarydaughters.com/return-of-the-daughters/
It’s one thing for men to reject feminism but extrodinary things happen when women begin to dare to defy today’s anti-family culture.
Hey! As a young, modern girl I admit I was slightly offended to read your article. I don’t want to attack you, I just want to explain what feminism means to me.
I think the beauty of a feminist society is that a women can be more masculine if she chooses, and a man can be more effeminate- but that isn’t a requirement for feminism, and I don’t think it’s a weakness of feminism. I don’t think there is a specific recipe for happiness that all people must follow. I think we will all be more happy if we have more freedom to try different lifestyles. I don’t think there is any inherent value to tradition, just because it is tradition. Society changes, lifestyles change, values change, and I think that actually needs to happen. And finally, I don’t think that being a more masculine women should make it hard for you to find love. Poor Anna Pasternak was just dating losers!
Hi Meghan,
Thanks for keeping your comment civil.
Meghan you have stated that you are a “young modern girl” and I can readily tell that from the comment you make.
When we are young nature gives most of us “idealism” on how the world “should” work. And there is value in this because although most ideas fail a few of them help to propel humanity forward.
However the biggest challenge that you and other young people face is in understanding what works and what doesn’t.
Or on a more personal level.. you need to understand what will give you a rewarding happy long life.. and what will make you a miserable and lonely old woman.
On one hand because I consider myself a libertarian I believe that everyone should have the greatest personal freedoms possible.
This gives them the freedom to do great things..
But it also gives them the freedom to completely screw up their life.
These mistakes are still valuable because in the long run people like Anna Pasternak learn the hard and painful truth and do the right thing by warning others not to follow in their footsteps.
This is the Beauty of Freedom.
But Freedom only works for a society when its people hold a high level of personal responsibility and accountability for their actions.
Freedom allows for long term wisdom to take hold but it’s often a very painful process as with getting anything of value in life.
For example.. You certainly have the freedom to do drugs, be sexually promiscuous, not go to school, and be lazy.
But then as you know any one of these actions can and often will create permanent hardship or pain in your life.
Feminism is the exact same deal Meghan.
You certainly have the freedom to act like a man just like you have the freedom to not take care of your personal hygiene and not shower for a few days at a time.
In both cases.. Good luck finding a real man who is willing to be with you.
Even if you did find a man willing to accept you on these terms… trust me.. it would be a disaster for both of you. He would almost certainly be the kind of beaten down “girlish-like” man that you will truly not be attracted to and for good reason.
Unfortunately Meghan you lack the perspective of some years to see “how the world really works” as opposed to “how you want it to work”.
Winston Churchill said it well..
If you are a Liberal in your 20′s well then that’s great because it shows you have a heart…
But if you are still a Liberal in your 30′s that only goes to show that you are a fool..
Meghan you made the following comment which illustrated what Churchill said very well..
“I don’t think that being a more masculine women should make it hard for you to find love. ”
Well Meghan you certainly have the freedom to see if your belief will work for you or not.
I certainly would warn you here and now that this will not be a happy experiment for you. But please proceed if you must.
Also keep in mind that embracing your natural feminine character goes way beyond a “mere tradition”.
It’s how Mother Nature works in allowing you to find real love with a real man. You can deny this all you want but mother nature really doesn’t care. You are simply either up for the challenge of creating a happy family with children in the future or you are not.
I assure you that deciding to take on a masculine identity as opposed to your feminine one will not lead you down this road.
I’m sure that Anna Pasternak was every bit as confident and idealistic as you are when she was younger. Unfortunately she didn’t learn the truth early enough to make a difference in her happiness..
But you can.
So instead of mocking her..
I would really make the effort to listen carefully to her and other “reformed feminists” who have learned very hard lessons in life.
I would HIGHLY recommend that you read some of my earlier posts on Feminism. You can simply go to the contents page and look through the titles to see them.
But here’s are a few good ones to start with.
http://russianwomentruth.com/2006/11/26/how-feminism-degrades-a-woman%E2%80%99s-body-and-soul-part-2/
http://russianwomentruth.com/2006/09/22/an-open-letter-to-feminist/
Take care,
GL
Meghan,
I won’t rehash GL’s excellent reply but I will make a few comments.
You stated “And finally, I don’t think that being a more masculine women should make it hard for you to find love. Poor Anna Pasternak was just dating losers!”
Now in what way does being decisive equal being a loser? Her two dates were with a doctor and an entrepreneur, which she admits were quite successful. The only problem they had was neither of them wanted to date a “man in a skirt”(masculine woman) and they said so. So how does that make them losers?
I would point out that many men who peruse this site, like myself aren’t close minded, chauvinist pigs. We have simply come to a decision that we want a partner in life, not a competitor, not an overseer, not a zookeeper.
Yes any woman should feel free in being “masculine” if that is what they choose, they should also understand that many men are free to choose NOT to be with a masculine woman. This doesn’t make them losers, or wimps(because they can’t take being around a strong woman? that’s an old feminist shaming tactic which doesn’t work with many men these days) it simply makes them decisive and assertive about their choices.
I don’t know what your age is nor does it really matter, wisdom and experience are two teachers who don’t discriminate based on age. Sooner or later you will discover what works for you and what doesn’t. It’s been my experience and through observation that many women under the age of 30 are not following in the footsteps of radical feminism or even plain old garden variety feminism. Instead, what they are doing is deciding for themselves what they want to do and will not tolerate being told to follow a party line(whether traditional or feminist). In fact they are taking advantage of all that previous generations of feminists have fought for, namely the right to make up their own minds, free from coercion and free from “traditional feminism”. This is what upsets the old hardliners in the feminist movement, they can’t very well say to the younger generation that they must obey and toe the party line.
Sorry, I’m getting a bit off topic but I hope you’re wise enough to learn from your choices. If you wish to be more masculine, then be more masculine, but don’t start calling men losers/wimps or other assorted put downs because they choose not be be with you. They are simply making a choice like you are, hopefully it won’t take you many years to learn from your experiences like it took Ms. Pasternak.
Aka her two statements which shows she still doesn’t get it and so she’s going to be on a lonely road for a while.
“We’re unable to sustain meaningful unions, apparently, because men are intimidated by our intellect, threatened by our higher earning potential and turned off by our controlling, capable, yet powerful personalities.”
[She still emphasizes power, control and competition over trust, cooperation and mutual respect and understanding.]
“Not in a simpering way, but with a profound realisation that being able to show vulnerability isn’t a female weakness but a sign of a woman’s strength.”
[A relationship has never been a contest about showing strength and who is shown to be stronger in the relationship!]
I stumbled upon this site after following a few links in friends’ blogs; I’m young and a girl and not really interested in meeting Russian women, but I have never agreed with someone more than GRY when he said:
“[A relationship has never been a contest about showing strength and who is shown to be stronger in the relationship!]”
Wow.
Finally someone comes out and says it. This may sound frightening, but what happens to Ms. Pasternak is not restricted to the 35+ crowd. I see it happening pretty frequently among friends and co-workers, that is girls setting themselves up for either disaster or lesbianism by intimidating GOOD guys away with this sort of feminist money-power-status drive.
Success is not the problem.
The “Not only will I be successful but I will be BETTER THAN YOU” is the problem.
Women aren’t supposed to be SUPERIOR to men, nor vice versa, they’re two different things meant to work in harmony.
Am I wrong?
WTF is happening to us??
Is it naive to wonder why relationships aren’t about anything other than love anymore??
Or to believe that men don’t want to DOMINATE but rather do what comes naturally, take care of a woman?
I don’t know.
Anyway, thats just my 20 years young opinion. Nice blog, I wish everyone success in looking for happy relationships
Hi Lamb,
Welcome aboard and I would certainly like to extend my best wishes to you given that you are a young lady who sees what’s going on around you with open eyes. You have every reason to be frightened by what you see happening in society as many of the participants here do as well.
However you have taken your first step towards protecting yourself and even combating feminist ideology by seeing the truth and hopefully spreading it as well to other young girls who desperately need to look towards your example and strength.
You are clearly wise beyond your years on this subject and I encourage you to explore it deeply. Understand that Feminism is just another destructive form of Marxism. Which basically states that we should make every one “equal” by killing a woman’s traditional identity and turn her into a Man.
This is really the root of what you see around you that is quite frankly beyond evil. Because of this Marxist and Feminist deception Western society is heading deeper into turmoil and I cannot tell you that there will be fair winds ahead for you or anyone else. The best thing you can do is to find yourself a good and lucky man when you are ready and to create a very strong family that can weather this storm.
Thanks for your support and compliments Lamb.
GL
Hey there Lamb,
How wonderfully refreshing to hear the thoughts of the men on this site echoed by a woman of your age. I agree with GL when he says you are wise beyond your years.
It is hard to imagine how we got to this state of affairs.
I’m quite curious about your peers and also the area of the world where you grew up. There must be other young women around you who think you are a couple of cards short of a deck if you express these same thoughts in their presence. Or are you possibly from the central states where people still celebrate 25th and 50th wedding anniversaries?
I like how you said that men and women are “two different things meant to work in harmony”. You are certainly not wrong in your thinking. That is in fact the key to all successful relationships. Working together and working in harmony, dedicated to common goals and also striving to celebrate the differences rather than challenge them.
It is also very admirable of you to acknowledge that a man who wants to take care of a woman is doing what comes naturally.
I have never understood how doing all you can do for your mate as an insult to their abilities in any way. In fact, I often think of a man who makes sure his wife is out there in the work force and is driving her to some level of anonymity among the crowded masses is doing much more to insult her. One of the highest compliments I can imagine is the man who tells his wife that he will do all that he can to provide for her and their family so that she is able to fulfill her potential as a woman.
Let’s face it, jobs suck at best but it is a means to an end. And the only difference between a job and a career is the stress level. It saddens me that in many cases career women have surpassed men in heart disease, heart attacks and other stress related conditions over the past decade.
Relationships have clearly changed a great deal in my 55 years. From what I have seen and the experiences we all hear about, it is my hope that you take a position of responsibility for your views and continue to be a positive influence on the people around you in this delicate area. Sometimes it is hard to stand up for what you believe in and to be noticed as different, but the movers and shakers of the world are rarely if ever following the crowd. Be careful of those who would try to change you and always remember that you can change the world by just being who you were meant to be.
Love is not that complicated and “chemistry” is little more than effortless lust, but building a life with someone is a treasure beyond description, and it requires intelligence, maturity and effort. Nothing of value is free and in the case of a loving, committed relationship the value is worth all of the effort.
Thank you for the perspective you bring to us all.
Richard
Warning Long post:
Thanks for the kind comments Lamb, I have hope there are more women like you in the world who see the insanity of what is going on and have the courage to do something about it. Women are now are the only ones who can really change course in what is happening to this 3rd generation ultra-radical feminism, most men don’t have the willpower or the political power to effect a peaceful change any longer.
Here is a possible future history of events as I see it, if things don’t change in the west and the family unit is completely destroyed.
The Present:
I’m very glad I’m still single and will remain that way into the foreseeable future. Women already treat men and children as disposable items. When it comes time they have no compunctions about “throwing away” these hindrances to their goals and aspirations.
I think all this will end up with the possibility that most men over 25 will be MGTOW/Ghost Nation/Marriage Strike in the near future, those with children may defy the law and simply take their kids back and move elsewhere, it’s happening more and more now as the insanity of modern women become more apparent and those children growing up with insane mothers will say enough is enough. Already more and more children, when given the choice tend to choose the father over the mother to live with, if for nothing else then the stability most dads bring to their lives. Unless the father were a true abuser he seems a lot more sane then a lot of so called mothers, who have 2-3 different children by different men and live in a completely self centered household. See this link by the daughter of a well known feminist for the sordid details of a famous narcissistic feminazi and how the mother has responded to the daughter’s so called “betrayal” of feminist principles. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1021293/How-mothers-fanatical-feminist-views-tore-apart-daughter-The-Color-Purple-author.html
read the very last paragraph for a stinging indictment of the feminist movement.
The Future:
• AW/WW will continue to sink into a pit of narcissistic self deception, greed and ever more psychotic behavior.
• More and more men will openly adopt MGTOW principles and “dropout”, leading to an ever growing exodus from mainstream society; this will severely impact the economy as even though women do most of the spending, men still create a substantial amount of the wealth.
• This madness will only end when these women become a viable threat to the stability of government and society in general when their narcissistic demands become ever more unrealistic, no matter how many of them vote for feminist governments their demands will reach a point of being totally unrealistic and unsustainable.
• Their actions will be ever more “insane” and they’ll try to pawn off the blame on the now mostly absent men and any others they may choose to demonize, ie immigrants, foreign powers etc.
• They’ll blame bachelors and MGTOWs/marriage strikers and most men in general for these problems and try to get punitive laws enacted to punish/intimidate men into “falling into line” and into obeying their demands, attempting to force men to reenter the mainstream economy ie. allow themselves to be exploited for the economic benefit of the feminists and the government. They will forbid and outlaw emigration to other countries or immigration of foreign women into western countries.
• It won’t work as many men, especially those with valuable skills will have unplugged from feminist dominated society by that time and possibly exited society altogether and will be difficult attract back into society with “incentives”. [Personally, I'm seriously pondering two options: 1. Leave the West altogether even if it's to an "alien" non-western culture to make a fresh start or 2) Stay in NA but move to a very remote area to live the way I want live, alone if necessary, if I had the financial resources I would move to the Yukon territory, as I'm Canadian. However it goes I'll choose to abandon the mainstream culture for the remainder of my life.]
• The next logical step they will take will be to enact laws which amounts to forced labor/indentured servitude, similar to Soviet style dictatorial powers, eg if you’re a professional or tradesman, you’ll be told where and when you can work/reside and how much you’ll be paid, you won’t have a choice because of the “emergency” and your freedom to travel will be severely restricted. The feminist dominated government will enact an “emergency measures law” to ensure its power is maintained at all costs and with whatever force it deems necessary to use to force men back into the economy(for the sake of the women and children of course).
• If enough men remain in the west who have some guts and aren’t turned into manginas, collaborators, sympathizers or criminals, this will trigger a revolution (possibly a violent one depending on how severe the situation is) or the very least some form of backlash.
• Don’t disregard how much of a threat the MGTOW/marriage strike philosophy is to the cozy life of these feminists and those in power, they’ve always been dependent on men to do the heavy lifting and provide the labor and hence the wealth creation, which they promptly “appropriate” (ie steal) for themselves. An underclass of men is forming which I think is getting more and more fed with what is going on and this can’t continue indefinitely.
• If not enough men remain who still have an independent, fighting spirit and some patriotism then I think the West will be vulnerable to attack and invasion from outside forces when western men get to the point of being so fed up and powerless with the situation that they’re not going to fight for the status quo any longer. I mean can you see yourself going off to war to defend the feminist hierarchy and their laws? In the past the family was the reason why most men fought, not patriotism, not for country, but for the safety of wife and kids, brothers and sisters, and parents.
• The collapse of the family unit will lead to the collapse of a viable and resilient societal structure; this has indeed occurred in past societies and will happen again. I’m not sure if the current trend reversible any longer, all I know is that if I had kids I would be looking to move them elsewhere rather then expose them to the insanity which passes for society these days.
• Indeed the loonies are almost in charge of the loony bin…
These are just musing in my darker moments, I really hope none of it comes to pass but I’m not optimistic, too many radical feminists and special interest groups want to continue to radicalize society and dismantle the stability of the west by destroying the family unit, most men won’t fight for strangers, most men will fight for their families, they certainly won’t fight to preserve the privileges of the feminists or the corporatists or the fascists/communists. Too many people nowadays are looking for as much wealth, power and control for themselves and see the decline in male willpower and confidence in the western world as an invitation to try and exploit any weaknesses they see.
We all know that most of these radical feminists hold the belief that all men are good for is dying on the battlefield, so to maintain their power I can see them not sacrificing a single woman to war, not if a thousand men will do. Look at the armed forces in the US, now that there is equal access for women to the front lines, there are going to be literally thousands of excuses why they won’t go (and some women have already declined the “honor” of fighting on the front lines due to various excuses). I can see a draft where the women will insist that men are better fighters/better at combat/bleeding/dying(ie more expendable) and should be the ones drafted first. Of course Sr. officers in rear guard roles and command staffs should be all women, because we all know they’re better decision makers!
If the matriarchy completely takes over more then likely there will be a war between the feminazi ruled western world and the rest of the non-feminist world as these remaining countries won’t allow the West to march in and rewrite the rules to the advantage of women and using economic and military coercion (you can thank old Georgie W for that precedent) as an incentive, can you see this happening in places like Saudi Arabia, Iran, India, Africa, even China and SE Asia or the FSU?
The only way any of this can be avoided is if we convince a new generation of young adults, especially women, that an equitable balance of power between men and women are in everyone’s best interest, that the family is the highest goal to be attained, not career, or power or personal wealth or advancement but simply having a stable, happy family. We need to show that the current reign of feminism is insane and we need to do away with it somehow. Doesn’t mean we will adopt Islamic style Sharia laws and put women back in chains, it means we will work together for the betterment of society as a whole.
What I would really like to see is that new generations of women renounce the hardcore, radical feminists like McKinnon and Dworkin and many more of their ilk as psychos who have betrayed the movement and their sisters and they’ve betrayed true feminine principles and humanity in general. That being a woman is something you are not ashamed of and you have nothing to prove to anyone. Being a woman is not something you study at university and get a degree in or are indoctrinated in(women’s studies); that it’s not about power, domination, competition and control of men. I would like to see a more rational discourse take place between men and women which doesn’t involve threats, intimidation, put-downs, hate speech, shaming language, extortion and blackmail.
Perhaps I’m a dreamer after all… I hope none of this ever comes to pass.
GRY
Men cannot stand masculine women? Which does the average family man prefer to spend most time with, his FRIENDS or his wife? Everybody here seems to defend the housewife, yet I’ve seen MRAs complain about women being “parasites” in their traditional roles and complaining about women’s nature and buffing male superiority. Where are we, boys? Can even you decide what you want? Doublespeak isn’t just feminist (I’m not one either).
BH,
I’d really like to understand your question/concern about what position most of the men here are taking. It seems that you are saying we are not sure what we want or that we claim to want traditional rolls but condemn the women in those rolls. I don’t think that is the case at all. Wearing a tiara doesn’t make you a princess but a real princess might wear a tiara. A NA woman pretending to love her husband while plotting his emotional and financial destruction doesn’t make her a “traditional” wife, either.
If the average NA woman of today entered marriage with a goal of being the best wife and mother she can possibly be, there would be no men on this site. More and more men are desperately seeking real women who want, and know how to be real women. Do men want be married to a competitor? No. Do men want to spend their life with “one of the guys”? No. Do men want to risk everything they own (not to mention fathering children they won’t have any part in raising) for a woman who’s agenda is get in, get established and then get out with all you can? Hell No.
The “parasite” wife has become the norm in NA and there is a definite reason for it. The women’s movement tried to convince ALL women that their lives sucked and they should demand change. Funny thing is demands usually just put people on the defensive. What’s more, the women who were actively involved in their marriages at that time were more than content little Stepford wives; they were happy. They weren’t looking for the decades of sheep dip that was going to be poured down their throats. A handful of Gloria Steinem, Jane Fonda types sold the bill of goods that “life would improve when they got what they deserved just by being women.” Why do women (or men) deserve more than their spouse? Marriage is supposed to be a unique and divine partnership where both parties are giving their all for the betterment of the family unit. If the feminist want equality, where the hell is it?
What was the big imbalance in marriage 50 years ago? There wasn’t one. Traditional marriages worked, modern ones don’t. It’s just not that hard to understand. In my marketing group we ask women these 2 questions probably a hundred times a year; How many of you work outside of the home? How many of you want to work outside of the home? Nearly every woman I have asked in over 20 years has said they do work outside of the home but they wished they didn’t. Primary reason for their feelings; they miss being with their children while they are young. That is no accident. Women get married have children and spend a large part of their lives nurturing and guiding the development of their offspring. Again, not an accident. This is merely nature operating at its pinnacle. And what was the result of trading away those things for the modern situation? Women are now watching strangers raise their children, have increased cancer and other catastrophic disease and a decrease in longevity due to high blood pressure, heart attacks and stroke. Gee, now there’s a great deal.
What men on this site are saying is they are fed up with liars, gold diggers and semi-pro divorcees masquerading as sincere women. They are sick of watching their marriages, their families and everything they spend years working for being ripped away from them by slutty alcoholics, every day drug users and a family court system that is so incredibly once sided against them that they have no fair or legal way to defend themselves.
Most men do not like masculine women. A woman who is strong and confident is a completely different matter. Try the word “dignity” instead. That allows for personal strength and a sense of independence while still being able to coexist in a relationship “interdependently”. And in my practical definitions I’d like to add that “husband” and “wife” both mean ‘my family first’. Another word to slip in here is “respect”. It is very hard to respect a woman who has an exit strategy figured out before her wedding day.
The classic double speak you are talking about is very much a modern NA woman’s stock in trade. It has to be. It justifies their lot in life and the disappointments while still letting them weave more deception for the next victim. And it is not limited to a tiny handful of aging, radical feminists. So many of our girls and young women today are being raised by angry, divorced, man hating moms and they are being taught to carry mommy’s sword into battle before they are even told that there is no war.
Hear Hear Richard.. Well done..
Richard,
Tell me what you think a masculine woman is. From tv shows I’ve seen when men in women are in traditional roles the man and the woman get into an occasional arguement and then separate and then the camera always shows the man is the “winner” of the situation. Or when the man goes to spend time with male buddies to talk about men’s stuff and how superior they are to women. Or when boys and girls just hate each other when they are little and only come together post puberty. I see women’s beauty is a big deal on this website. So if you find the perfect wife, marry, and live traditionally, when she turns ugly when getting old, will you leave her for someone younger for the sake of beauty? I hardly see any love in those situations. Perhaps you can enlighten me if I’m seeing it all wrong.
“Women get married have children and spend a large part of their lives nurturing and guiding the development of their offspring. Again, not an accident. This is merely nature operating at its pinnacle.”
Might want to be a little careful there. Feminists could use that to keep default custody of children to the mother in most cases, not that I support such a thing. Also, how do you know what is natural? What makes something natural?
Brown Hyena,
I would say that TV shows are designed to keep you watching them so that they can sell more advertisements. They tell a story that is supposed to entertain us. Now while some of the best entertainment plays off real life, it is mostly an exaggeration of and not a reflection.
Also, I don’t think my male friends and I have ever had a conversation about how superior we are to women. I think that’s a cliché that’s long past its prime. And if you know someone who does have these conversations I would say that they are probably living with an animosity that needs to be dealt with.
I would argue that when you question how this site has attractive females on it and whether a man would leave a woman when she became old and ugly that you have probably misconstrued the purpose of the site to begin with. Its to enrich and promote a set of beliefs that the people coming to this site and reading the articles subscribe to. And while no person is perfect, I would lean towards the belief that the people coming to this site wouldn’t leave there wife because her looks faded and I would have a hard time believing that they would marry someone based on looks alone to begin with. A lot of things make a person attractive to someone else, and I believe that the men here are saying that they embrace all of those traits. You only have to read through a few articles and comment lists to get that impression.
Lastly, nature is our environment and our actions. It’s what we do and how we do it. We have countless years of human history, traditions, and education to say this is our nature. Its not something that is abstract or subjective, however it is vast and tends to generalize.
At the end of the day, you have to look to yourself and ask what it is that you want and how you are going to get there, and that’s what I think most of the people here are doing.
Good luck,
P
BH,
To start with I would like to thank you for dialog without mud slinging. The easy route seems most often used and I appreciate that you have chosen a higher road.
Regarding “masculine” women, there aren’t many ways to paint that picture. We need to make sure we’re on the same page here. The American Heritage Dictionary describes masculine as; Of or relating to men or boys; male. Suggestive or characteristic of a man; mannish. Relating or belonging to the gender of words or grammatical forms that refer chiefly to males or to things classified as male.
I have known very few “masculine” women. I do however know a lot of strong women. Some are successful professionals or successful wives and mothers. Unfortunately many more are angry, bitter, divorced, hitting middle age, and uncertain of either their personal or professional future. The latter having chosen a complete “me” existence and then condemning the world for not seeing everything their way. Being strong, in and of itself, has very little value. A race car driver can have a 500 horse power motor sitting on the floor of his shop but without a car to put it in, a crew of skilled mechanics to keep it running and some high powered sponsors, he’s just another back yard clown with a powerful motor. Strength is a character trait, not someone’s character. Intelligent men respect and appreciate a woman who is strong of character.
When you talk about TV shows that portray men as the “winner” of any situation, I wonder what channels you are watching. Not only do I never see that but even my eight year old daughter commented one day, “Daddy, why do they always make the men sound so dumb?” She ‘gets it’ and she’s eight! The media is almost entirely anti male. Movies, sit-coms, “reality” TV, and even the interview shows are all male put down vehicles. Dr. Phil might as well have a sex change, The View is the most one sided male dumping show around, Tyra had a show on last week titled “What Men Really Want” and it focused entirely on how screwed up men are for not being more aware of their wives and girlfriends wants, needs and desires. And I can’t think of a single situation comedy in the past 35 years that didn’t portray men as morons. If you know of any tell me. I’m an entertainment trivia nut and I can’t recall even one. But by far the most important thing to remember here is, “Its TV”. There is nothing of true and lasting value that comes from TV unless you are always watching Discovery, Nova, PBS or something along those lines. The rest is purely fictional and strictly for ‘entertainment purposes only’. Reality shows have base lines, pre-set parameters, scores of editors and they are taped well in advance. It’s only as real as the sensors and the sponsors will allow.
As for men who get together in groups and talk about how superior they are to women I have to say that in all of my years and with all of the hats I’ve worn, maybe a few bikers I know might talk that way, but real men don’t. Period. Men talk about essentially (sorry guys, some truth on the table here) many of the same things that women talk about. The difference is we men don’t spend hours, weeks or lifetimes belaboring things that we can do nothing about. We just get on to the next topic.
It seems that men talk about sex a lot, or so I hear from the women I know. Out of any 50 men and 50 women I know, more of the women talk about sex and they talk about it more often and more graphically than the men. It has been that way since I was in high school and it is that way today. “Men just want to sit around drinking with their buddies and bash women”. Of the people I know, two or three times as many women have problems with excessive drug or alcohol use and they have far more nights out with the girls, and they talk down men nearly every time they are together. Once again, this stuff is not gender exclusive, it never has been and it likely never will be.
Let me give you one man’s view on the relative beauty of the young women seen on this site verses young women anywhere else in the world. Most of these girls are very pretty. Finding beautiful women on this planet is possibly the easiest task any person could ever have. There are millions of them! I have never been to any country that didn’t have its share (and sometimes more) of outstandingly attractive females. Physical beauty is, in most ways, like clothing; it isn’t always in style and it will wear out one day. A stunning woman in the times of the Roman Empire wouldn’t even get a second glance today. Conversely, a beautiful woman by today’s standards would have been laughed at, stoned in public or put to death back then.
When I was in my thirties, one of the most wonderful and beautiful women I have ever known was approaching 80. She always smiled, always had a nice thing to say and when she asked, “How are you doing?” she stopped talking and waited to hear your reply. She didn’t look at all like the girls on this site but she had class, dignity and she was beautiful.
The men here (I’m guessing and can not speak for them) are looking for women with value and values. They want a woman who brings something to the table in a relationship. Someone who still believes that the needs of the family are more important than the wants of the individuals. Someone who believes that the timeline on marriage is ‘until death do you part’.
Personally, I am mid fifties, white bread, vanilla ice cream, t-shirt, jeans and sneakers. I could probably lose a few pounds and my grey is showing through. I don’t think it is practical to seek a lasting relationship with someone who’s strongest recent memory is a high school dance. Or someone who might ask “Was McCartney in a band before Wings?” It would be unrealistic, not to mention a bit hypocritical of me to ask for a woman who has never been married, never had kids and is just approaching her prime of life and has the looks of a Vogue cover model to ‘run away with me’ (and my daughter).
On the subject of “nature” and the process of human propagation, babies were being born before speech was developed. Mothers nurtured and guided much of their childhood. It was well before Freud, Dr. Spock and Hillary’s “village” to raise a child. Throughout the millennia nature, God or whatever you believe in was in charge and it worked pretty damn well. It has only been in the post-modern, bra burning, Oprah spewing last few decades that anyone has ever questioned the natural order of things and it is since then that just about everything having to do with marriage and family has gone completely to hell in a hand basket. We can question it, dispute it and deny it all we like, but history is, if nothing else, a perfect teacher. We need only to sit down, shut up and learn from it.
BH,
By the way, I don’t want you to think that last line is a negative directed at you. It is for all of us to help get the point that we don’t need to reinvent the wheel every day. (Its round and it works) We all need to acknowledge, accept and study our own history in order to prevent making the same mistakes forever.
Richard
BH,
I had another thought regarding what you said about little boys and girls hating each other only to come together post puberty. I don’t agree that hate is even close to what children feel during those formidable years.
At about 6 years old I became the talk of the playground when I scared Linda senseless by holding a garter snake up in front of her face as she got off the swing. It was hilarious at the moment it happened and the boys looked up to me as “the man” around school. When we got inside the classroom and found out that Linda was in the nurse’s office crying I asked if I could go and tell her I was sorry. Instead, I was sent home with a note to my parents. I was punished rather severely by my dad and had to go to Linda’s and apologize, then walk with her to school for a week. It was the best week of my life at the time because I was now walking with the cutest girl in school and actually talking about things with her. It was not on my mind when I held the snake up in front of her but it sure turned out well for me in the long run.
Kids rarely ‘hate’ each other only to discover them later. All they discover post puberty is why they have acted like such lunatics for so many years. Puberty defines for us the reasons behind thinking one boy or girl seems prettier, nicer or more fun to be around. It is nature following its logical course. The instinctive desire to pair up and eventually create families is just the unconscious chain of events that keeps the species going.
For some of us with strong spiritual beliefs this is all pretty cut and dried. I don’t question why men and women act the way they do towards each other so much of the time. I do find it incredibly sad though. We are all born with the same basic tool kit and owners manual but somewhere along the line we all end up using what we have quite differently. Spiritually it is totally understandable because of the nature of humanity. Our weakness often defines who we are.
The common excuse for someone who seems to be perpetually single is that they “just haven’t found the right one yet” but it is my contention that we are all capable of loving and spending our life with just about anybody. The base instincts that draw us together have more to do with a timeless desire to reproduce the best offspring (chemistry) rather than some “secret of life” matching of common interests and goals. Those things certainly help, don’t get me wrong, but they are secondary to the “why” of getting together in the first place.
Take a look at any of the thousands of match making sites and services around the world and dissect the actual numbers on long term relationships coming as a direct result of the whole bunch of them put together. The odds of finding a life mate through such services are probably less than winning a state lottery.
Of course the drift of why so many men are watching and following what is said on a site like GL is because we have come to the collective conclusion that adding NA women to those sites’ customer list just reduces the chance “winning” in the game of life.
Looking forward to your feedback.
Love your story about the snake Richard. If I was in your class I would have thought that you were “the man” too
Here’s a little known fact about Russian Women that is related to this story.
In the summer time there are usually these animal handlers hanging out in public squares offering to have your picture taken with exotic animals such as small monkeys, large lizards and snakes.
I have seen these women flocking to hold these snakes without any fear. In fact I have never met a Russian Woman who was afraid of snakes. Just the opposite.. they were fascinated by them if you can believe it.
Kind of turns the Eve and the Snake story on its head I know but hey its the real truth
Wow, a backlash within their own ranks! This is simply brilliant stuff. Thanks for posting Anna’s article – very enlightening. I may put a link back to this post on my blog.
P’s; I get a few angry feminists messaging me. Always angry. Always wanting to be men. Go figure
I’m sorry the feminists are this bad. It has never been a problem in my family and nobody is a feminist. Communism isn’t feminism. Fascism isn’t Communism. There are all different. The Nazi’s went after the feminists during WWII. It is strange. Are they ruining family structure or are men just wanting beautiful Eastern women? All the women in my family are married, have children and small jobs as caregiver’s. And not all do. Just the one’s who work.
I meant to put Feminism is Communism and not Fascism. O_O It is confusing for people to understand that many work under Fascist, Communist or any other system of mind which all could be a problem. Clearly much of our mentality comes from one or the other. The Nazi’s went after feminists because of the fascism. This is a known problem, but it can only be a problem for some but not for everybody. There is no reason to fear being a mother or being a woman. Not all women are going to because of fertility, money, culture, health etc… Feminism to may be a joke, but it does deal with issues that are important that are no longer about family or money. I see it is about sexuality, race and rape more than anything.
Liviana,
I’ve been reading you posts and enjoying your input. I do have a few questions because I have either read too quickly or just missed some of what you are saying.
Where exactly is it that you live, and about how old are you? Is your community highly populated with people of Russian heritage? Also, you speak of a high risk of rape in your area. One place you said that almost every woman you know has been raped. Why is this problem so high near you? These are the kind of questions that may help others to give you better information or assistance in your situation.
I am curious about the way you feel regarding feminism. At some points you seem to be saying it is a bad thing while in other places I get the impression you defend it. In one post you have said that feminism has ‘dealt with important issues’ and you also say, “I see it is about sexuality, race and rape more than anything”. Are you implying that the feminist movement has protected women’s sexuality somehow or that it has lessened rape or abuse against women? If I have misunderstood you, I apologize but I really don’t see that result. The power of feminism has only been to add a new direction to the problem of discrimination in some areas of life but it has done nothing to equalize gender roles or make women safer. What’s more the so called empowerment of women that has come out of this movement has only served to produce less structured and more broken families.
Thank you for taking the time to clarify these things for me.