An unusual friendship of opposing beliefs reveals that the global elites created feminism to destroy families for total government control.
(RW_man note: This is one of the most important post that you can ever read from this site.)
For many years I’ve held a deep suspicion that the development of Modern Feminism was never really the grassroots movement from a dis-satisfied base of women that it was always painted to be.
It was always too well financed.. too slick with it’s propaganda.. and probably most telling of all.. suddenly ever-present with positive portrayals in the news and media.
Although various Feminist waves appeared at different times, the version of Feminism that I most vividly remember started in the early 70′s. Unfortunately at this time it seemed like most american women were swept up in a wave of male bashing hysteria. Nationally televised Tennis Matches between male and female pros were heavily hyped as the “Battle between the Sexes” and these games could have served as perfect templates for the future roll out of the WWF – World Wrestling Federation. Evil oppressing men on one side and the righteous and underdog women on the other.
Unfortunately my own mother was an early convert to this madness. There was always a sick but happy glee on her face when she would come home from work and happily call my father a “Male Chauvinist Pig”. My father was certainly no angel but he certainly didn’t deserve this or other doses of disrespect constantly leveled at him. In many ways because of this I grew up believing that he was just another cookie cutter evil man who deserved to be shunned. And why wouldn’t he be? His sometimes violent reactions in the face of such frustration would justify everything that was said about him.. right?
Well little did he or anyone else in our family realize that the misery enacted in our home was to be multiplied many million times over across the United States. My father was the first generation of American Men to have the rug pulled out from underneath them since the traditional roles of family responsibility.. along with the mutual understanding, love and respect that comes with it.. was effectively being shredded by the brutal calculations of a corporate and state controlled media.
During times of war military planners would normally refer to this type of covert action as “Psy-Ops”.
But to the rest of us this is more simply known as..
Psychological Warfare.
Somebody or something with over arching control of our government and media had silently declared war against our families by targeting women with the message that marriage and motherhood were forms of enslavement to be marginalized at all costs.
But why?
Why would anyone want to encourage women to believe that spreading their legs from one sexual encounter to the next would lead to feminine “equality” and “enlightenment”?
How would denigrating Men lead to “happiness” except in the most twisted ways possible?
As time rolled on the answer became painfully simple and sinister..,
- Divide and Conquer
- United we stand (with family) divided we fall (without)
- Alienate the masses in-order to manipulate and control them
Feminism has been skillfully packaged to appeal to Women’s natural instincts for empathy. And after 40 years of this non-stop packaging Feminism has sadly become a perceived “pillar” or modern society.
Many of us have already known that Feminism is an ever-present and powerful form of indoctrination and brainwashing. It is especially most ingrained when women themselves incorporate its destructive ideology into their very identities.
- “I am a proud Feminist!” say the women.
- “I am a proud Nazi!” said the citizens of Nazi Germany.
- “I am a proud Communist!” said citizens of the USSR.
- “I am a proud Progressive!” say the American Socialists.
Unfortunately at this stage of the game very little can be done to alter the perception of those that are committed to wearing the ideological chains of the very masters that enslave them.
But still..
If there’s ever going to be any hope in resisting the onslaught of feminism it must happen by awakening one individual at a time.
It is against this backdrop that the unusual story of Aaron Russo and Nick Rockefeller appears.
Aaron Russo was a successful Hollywood producer responsible for creating such classic films as “The Rose” with Bette Midler and “Trading Places” with Eddie Murphy and Dan Aykroyd.
Starting from humble beginnings in inner city Brooklyn, Aaron’s work ethic and integrity led him to create an array of successful businesses early on ranging from garment distribution to concert promotions. Always Libertarian minded, Aaron felt a deep need to wake up his fellow citizens to the creeping decay of personal liberties that was designed to gradually turn all of us into serfs.
Aaron started to make waves..
He produced and hosted a live audience show called “Mad as Hell” which was an impassioned plea to wake up American Citizens to the totalitarian advances of the Federal Government. And then he ran for Governor of Nevada under the independent ticket.
Apparently these two actions caught the attention of the Elites.. namely members of the Rockefeller family whom I’m sure were concerned at Aaron Russo’s rising star amongst the public.
Aaron then got a phone call from his attorney telling him that Nick Rockefeller wished to meet him.
Aaron promptly agreed and what started as a simple social call evolved into an unusual “friendship” that lasted for several years.
Nick Rockefeller was fully complicit with the agenda of total control that the Elites had been gradually implementing. Although Nick almost certainly held a genuine admiration for Aaron his underlying agenda was always meant to casually convert and “groom” Aaron towards working for his side. And thankfully that attempt failed.
Nick was surprisingly candid about the Rockefeller’s intentions to implement total control over people.
And it should come as no surprise that a chief instrument of that policy was the CREATION of Feminism.
Excerpt from Aaron Russo’s last interview before his death in 2007:
Well one of the things he told me was that.. he was at the house one night and we started talking and he was laughing and he said,
“Aaron what do you think Women’s Liberation was all about?”
And I had pretty convetional thinking about it at that point and I said,
“I think it’s about women having the right to work to get equal pay with men just like they won the right to vote.”
He started to laugh and he said,
“Your an idiot.”
And I said,
“Why am I an idiot?”
And he said,
“Let me tell you what that was about. We the Rockefellers funded that.”
“We funded Women’s Lib and we’re the ones who got it all over the newspapers and television (through) the Rockefeller Foundation…”
And he says,
“You wanna know why?
There were two primary reasons.
And one reason was we couldn’t tax half the population before Women’s Lib and the second reason was now we get the kids in school at an early age.. we can indoctrinate kids on how to think and with it break up their family. The kids start looking at the state as the family.. As the schools as the officials as their family.. not the parents teaching them. And so those were the two primary reasons for Women’s Lib.”
Which I thought up to that point was a noble thing. But when I saw their intentions behind it.. where they were coming from when they created it and the thought of it.. I saw the evil behind what I thought was a noble venture..”
Please watch the video below for yourself. The above excerpt starts at 49 seconds into the clip. In addition to Feminism this interview will be startling for many other facts as well. I’d highly recommend that you watch Aaron Russo’s entire interview at once.
Also try to make it a point to share this interview to any self-avowed feminists you know.
Because in the final analysis they are as much a victim to this grand manipulation as any of us.
And they certainly deserve the chance to accept it..
Or to stay in denial.
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Independent of each other, dependent on the State….pretty genius, indeed! Like you, RW, I always kind of suspected that clever business men were behind the feminist movement. And like you said, they expertly played on women’s natural empathy for the underdog and our extreme disdain for the bully.
After reading this article, I tried to figure out why I have not become victim to this mentality even though I live in the U.S. I realized that it has been somewhat a conscious process of actively weeding out feminist ideas that are ever present in our culture.
Whereas Russian women or women of some other cultures might never need to introspect about what it means to be feminine (it is natural to them–not under constant attack–even praised!) I believe that truly feminine women of the west will have to “fight” to be feminine. It is a lonely fight or sure. A feminine woman in the West might find herself to be the only woman at the supermarket wearing a dress and high heels and even for all her efforts to be attractive find that western men no longer look at her, only feminist women do with mock-pity. The feminine woman might find she is the only one among her circle of friends that wants to get married and have children rather than climb the ladder of her career.
Why do I fight? Certainly, I am fortunate to have had a Christian upbringing which obviously instills traditional values (as well as having a perfect example of a feminine woman in my mother). There’s certainly not much room for feminist dogma in Christianity. I suppose some might say that religion is another rich, businessman’s idea, but in any event, I won’t try to change their mind. At the end of the day, we have to compare the ideas that our fed to us with nature, with reality.
In reality, I am a woman. I love men. I need men. I love to please men. I love to make myself beautiful to men…it is an unending quest
Ever since I was a little girl, scuffing around in Momma’s red high heels and oversized dress, smeared lipstick on my little face, carrying a babydoll, “making” dinner for imaginary daddy…all I know is nothing felt better to me, more natural and comfortable and nothing ever will.
So thank you, RW, for making our world a little less lonely, for praising true femininity when it is least popular. I doubt if I could ever compete with the beauty and grace of the Russian/FSU ladies, but I am certainly inspired, challenged, and affirmed in my “fight to be feminine”. Their freedom to express their femininity is a gift, and I can only hope that the “free” West can repair the damage that has been done.
Congrats, RW, for four years!
–A reader for three years–
Anna M.
What can I say Anna.. Your Awesome
Thanks for being my reader for 3 years.. wow.. that’s great to know. I hope you manage to turn a few more ladies who are teetering on the edge to this site and maybe they can start to feel more like you as well.. Thank you sooo much again Anna.
No, you’re awesome! Thank you, RW!
Love,
Anna M.
You’d be surprised the number of churches preaching feminism, and a whole myriad of things not in the Bible…
These are the people who say the bible is the ultimate authority, and yet, when you point something out the is wrong in their doctrine, they say, “it’s open to interpretation.”
That being said, I”m glad to hear that you want to be feminine, and that you like dressing up nicely, etc. It’s my wish for you that you find what you’re looking for in a man, and bring much joy into that man’s life. And I wish that he brings much joy into your life as well.
Good luck!!
Yes, I agree, Wolverine. The church of Pick-And-Choose-Christianity is quite widespread these days. I have even heard people refer to Jesus as one of the first feminists. I, myself, grew up in a fairly conservative church, however, where feminism was strictly denounced. It was not uncommon to see women with their hair covered, wearing long dresses, toting around eight children. ;p Though I have not gone so far as to adopt the hair-coverings, nor extremely modest clothing (perhaps I am guilty of selective Christianity?), as I feel this might be one of the very few parts of the Bible which only pertained to that particular culture in time. However, I may change my mind on that after further reflection. It is certainly a very powerful anti-feminist message to the outer world which I think is very beautiful! In any event, Jesus, certainly made clear, that the heart/intent of a person is more important than any outer sign. True femininity is about the heart.
I would further say to such people who believe that the male/female gender roles are no longer relevant in our culture, look at the “fruit” of such types of thinking. Jesus always seemed to use those two measuring sticks against any idea presented to him: what is the “heart” of the matter and what is the “fruit” of the outcome. In secular philosophy, you might call it cause and effect.
In any event, looking around in our culture, the “effect” of feminism is clear: the family unit is broken. People are isolated from each other. No one needs anyone anymore. It is all about the Self. Whether you are a Christian or not, certainly we can see the danger in this. Well, clearly, I could go on forever about this, so sorry
Thank you, Wolverine, for you very kind words. I can’t think of anything more rewarding than having my own family. I wish you the same joy as well!
Love,
Anna M.
This “Christian” conversation reminds me of a book I read recently “No More Christian Nice Guy”. It’s a good read for those who have that “nice guy syndrome”. I see the author, Paul Coughlin also has a new book out entitled “No More Christian Nice Girl”. I would “assume” it doesn’t have a feminist agenda, but you never know who to trust these days when it comes to deliberate “disinformation”. Maybe that’s why I’ve been shown to not give full and complete trust and authority to any “human” and to wear the “Armor Of God” – EPH 6:10-18
Be Blessed & Stay Blessed,
John Teks
I would not considered Jesus a feminist either. He just did not look down on people based on gender or race. I remember in the 1990s about there was a top feminist woman who acted shocked that Jesus didn’t hate women and appeared to treat women nicely. I would think we should wonder if the feminist movement was needed in the 1960s. Think about this starting back in Victorian England women’s job choices were beginning to increase due to top men wanting women in less criminal jobs. Also by 1920 all states in America gave women the right to vote. I am just saying women most likely did not need a feminist movement since society was slowly making things more fair for women.
I sure agree that things were improving for women from the 20s to the 60s, but the war years held a few more surprises that some men in positions of authority were not ready for. When women were replacing the men who went to fight, our little industrialized world found that women were every bit as good as men in just about any job situation where they were needed. However, there were a few fundamental differences between then and the post feminist generations. First of all, as a people we were stronger of character and the idea of doing whatever was necessary and asked of them for the greater good, was done without hesitation. Also, there was the reality that people tended to rise to the occasion back then because it was expected of them from childhood to never let their fellow men and women down. We actually cared about each other in those days. I even think that the world was so much ‘bigger’ then and that kept a lot of people from anxiously challenging the status quo over every little thing that came along.
All of those things created this highly fertile groundwork for the socialists to deceive and exploit women while patting them on the back for the job well done, then adding “look how much more you could have”. When the feminist multiplied these factors by mixing in their “we want it all and we want it now” rhetoric, many women were duped into thinking it was completely legitimate.
The world never needed feminism but the power brokers did. The socialist and one world-ers had to have this turmoil in order to further break down families.
Anna M.,
I am truly inspired by your words about “fighting” to be feminine. How sad is it that NA has created an environment where it would be so difficult to be a lady of character, or that doing so would make you stand out as a source for some twisted sense of pity.
It is also unfortunate, as wolverine pointed out, that the church today has embraced the rhetoric of feminism as little more than a decision like what clothes to wear or what car to drive. It seems that these churches have failed to notice how much feminism is in direct contradiction to Biblical teaching.
Cheers to you, Anna! Where do we send the flowers you deserve for standing your ground and following your heritage and calling as a woman?
Richard?! How did you know I love flowers?!
That is so very sweet of you! I would tell you, however, to send the flowers to my mother instead because everything I have learned/am learning about true femininity she has taught me.
While it can certainly be lonely being a feminine woman in the West, I know it will be the most rewarding. To one day be surrounded by kids, and grandkids with my future husband by my side, I can’t think of anything more fulfilling than that!
As far as the feminist movement within Christianity, I wrote a little on my thoughts to Wolverine, but it seems to have gotten caught in the spam folder. I might have to repost.
Take care, Richard!
Love,
Anna M.
Anna,
I love the way that you pass credit for your womanhood to the mother that taught you. Your respect for your mother is one of the beautiful signs of a classy lady.
A habit of mine whenever I meet a very real woman in today’s world is to ask her to thank her mother for me. I have an undeniable respect for the women who have lighted the path to their daughters, and even their sons, with regards to what a real woman is like.
Don’t worry about some of your posts getting delayed a while. It’s happened to me, too, but they will show up after they’ve been checked and cleared. Those automatic filters do a good job I think, so if we have to wait once in a while, so be it. (I’m waiting for one of mine to post as well)
So, the next time you see your mother, tell that I said, “Thank you”.
This is a must read article. Of course we have a big problem with the top people and I think people are starting to realize that. To be honest putting the stage together before I was born so I would work and be taxed is the minor evil they have done. They have done more and far worse. They do not even follow the Constitution or care act or be American. Though the funny thing is and I would think they deep down know is that they can’t control muslims (they don’t believe the Constitution either) or Chinese.
Westerngirl, through deception these people have intended for all of us to live a life of covert slavery. Women have been deceived into believing that life without a man or children is more preferable against the very genetic directive of their bodies to pro-create and nurture.. While Men have had the deck stacked against them from the very beginning.. preventing them from building stable homes and the emotional happiness that would normally come with it. This to me is just as evil as any violence they have sponsored through the financing of both sides of any war. Or the overthrows and assassinations they have used to gain control of a country’s natural resources. It’s all the same evil.. One is just more gradual and hidden then the other.
Great blog and wonderful russian girls!
This is a must to read articule,really.
The f*****g Rockefeller finnanced Lenin and Trotsky bolshevik communist plot in 1905 and now the feminazism.
Feminism is the cultural marxism in capitalist and postmodern society.
We think,in western that communism is the past,but we can’t see that marxism has the victory in the culture.Specially in countries like France,Germany,Spain,England,Italy,USA.
Cultural marxism started with Gramsci. I hate when people says that “you don’t understand him” when you try to dennounce his attack against western civilization.Universities are doomed,because marxists have taken control of them(La Sorbona for example) and “intelectuals” are “anti-anticommunist”,you try to dennounce the 150 millions of communist killings and they say you that you are nazi,fascist,fanatic,etc.
They wrote in France “black book of capitalism”and it’s almost a joke,they put fascism,nazism,WWII as crime of capitalism.The rest of book are really capitalist crimes(Colonialism,AL dictatorships,etc),but you see in those examples the marxist culture at his best.
Gramsci was so intelligent and his work is now “respected”by “great”Universities in western countries.Solzhenitsyn was right when he said that western hopes too much in communism, no force to oppose communism at should have been(Better red than dead,1968)…
(Harvard 1978)
In bolshevik Hungary of the bloody mass murderer Bela Kun,Lukacs was another example of the cultural war.In USA of nowdays,Obama is doing almost the same with education……
After WWII…Derrida,Foucalt,Guatari were leading the marxists “idiotization”of the west,and until today,they are respected as great thinkers(lol).
Specially Foucalt,they did a lot of work using the gramscian strategy to take marxist control of western countries and was so silently that most of people never knew about this cultural war.
Keep up the good work rw_man,very good site.
Thanks for joining us Warzawianka.
Yes there is a lot of evidence to support that state sponsored Feminism is just one of the many attacks on our liberties that these people have done. They are predators to the greatest degree and I believe they enjoy watching others suffer for the benefit of their own sick humor.
We all have a stake in this planet and if the information is presented to us honestly then I’m confident that together we can overcome anything. But as long as we are treated like children and forcefully kept inside their prison matrix then they will create a power structure that is not sustainable and doomed to fail for both them and us.
Eurodumb states(future EUSSR,see in youtube Vladimir Bukovsky EUSSR)promove feminazism,Obama ,the same…so I agree,we are in the matrix are we are like a “scientific”experience of the global elite.
Most of the people is like sheeps in the Animal Farm of Orwell.
In the other hand,nazis did too much danger and death and they were AGAINST feminism(they associated with marxism)and it’s easy to associate nowdays…Antifascism(good)+Feminism(antifa),so if you are antifeminsit,you are not antifa and if you are not antifa,you are nazi.
Do you know something about Soros?He supports Move On for example,extreme-left ,cultural marxist movement or the progressive left.He is billionaire.
The ACLU is another powerful organization that supports feminazism and LGTB agenda.
Those are destroying America’s families,specially with young people(who voted mostly for Obama),who are brainwashed to make “counter-culture”2.0 ,in the age of postmodernity.
Thanks for your comment
It is nice that you mentioned the ACLU. The American Civil Liberties Union, by their own website, ” . . is our nation’s guardian of liberty, working daily in courts, legislatures and communities to defend and preserve the individual rights and liberties that the Constitution and laws of the United States guarantee everyone in this country”.
What seems strange to me is that historically, the ACLU have never taken the side of Judeo-Christians who have traditionally made up the vast majority of the American population. I wonder why that is?
As a healthy Caucasian, voting adult, born and raised in the US, with property and a heritage of Christian values, I have NEVER heard of a case where they have defended MY rights to freely chose who I hire or fire, to freely chose where I live or who I want as neighbors, or to defend the the rights of Christians in any way.
The US Constitution and Bill of Rights DOES NOT promise or allow for drastic departures from normalcy to the point of complete reverse discrimination. Those documents also DO NOT guarantee special rights to minority voices OVER the rights and freedoms of the majority.
More from the ACLU website;
“The ACLU also works to extend rights to segments of our population that have traditionally been denied their rights, including people of color; women; lesbians, gay men, bisexuals and transgender people; prisoners; and people with disabilities.”
The plurality of that statement almost assures that many more people will be denied their rights than those who will be helped. To whom can this organization “extend” rights to before infringing on the rights of others?
Also from the ACLU website;
“If the rights of society’s most vulnerable members are denied, everybody’s rights are imperiled.”
While I can think of no more vulnerable member of society than those living but as yet unborn, why is it that the ACLU flatly refuses to defend the rights of women to choose life over the rights of women to choose infanticide?
The ACLU has been around for 90 years and the benefits which they have brought to the table are minuscule when compared to the atrocities which they have supported.
Women won the right to vote in 1920, the same year as the ACLU was formed. Since that time, our nation has come a very long way with regards to recognizing and acknowledging the rights of every individual no matter what their background or personal choices. Few of those changes are as a direct result of any efforts by the ACLU. In my opinion, as an organization, the ACLU is an embarrassment to the majority of free Americans. Several groups have done more, and done better, at bringing about necessary changes to our way of life.
I live in Chile,and I see how feminism is taken control of society.
Deconstructivist and gramscian strategy have been used by Concertacion(center-left,from Christian Democracy to Socialist Party)
from 1990.
Now,2010,Sebastian Piñera is the President(center-right),so socialists are “plotting”to get the power in 2014 and with stronger support of the masses of sheeps,to consolidate progressive agenda.I’m sure.Marco Enriquez Ominami got a great support during the campaign and he is like a progressive-european socialist…
As one who watched and even at one point supported parts of this new order which was presented by the feminist movement, I can say without hesitation that objectivity and free will were discouraged at all cost. The construction of the movement and its device for bringing women under its control was a series of small, seemingly logical steps which led to a dark basement of deception. The leaders were building layers of followers by peeling off layers of truth which were quickly replaced with layers rhetoric and confusion. As each new idea was run up the flag pole, an old tradition was lost.
Women were told that they were indentured servants and that the only difference between housewives and slaves of the old south was the manner by which they had been purchased. They said that women should be paid for each job that they performed within the home from dawn until dusk, and that men only had ‘one job’ for eight simple hours of a day. Even though this was just another spin on reality, the movement jammed it down the throat of their followers (victims). The movement said that putting children in day care environments would help them to grow up happier and healthier because they would have a more diverse early childhood, which would also allow women to get ‘real jobs’ instead of being imprisoned by the drudgery of household duties which left them with nothing to show for their sweat and toil. The lies just kept building.
Then there was the next layer; what did ‘the men’ do for them? They were just sex crazed, beer guzzling pigs with the talents and charms of cavemen. The paychecks that men brought home could never allow families to climb out of middle class poverty or mediocrity. All of the other things that men did or provided for the family were ‘insignificant’ and could easily be done as well, or better, by the women themselves.
Then came the strategic alliance between the women’s movement and the homosexual community. The world would now see that every adult male was almost entirely useless, or at best a necessary evil. Gays and libbers were hand in hand politically, socially, publicly and privately constructing further methods for unraveling the traditional family unit. And during this entire time, the smoke around the mirrors (which I believe very few people understood or knew existed) was the multimillion dollar, liberal/socialist media. From Broadway to Hollywood there was a highly organized and extremely well financed push to make all traditional male role models look weak and inept. Newspaper ads, television shows, movies, plays, music and comedy ALL became target battlegrounds for demeaning and demoralizing men. To break down the security of the family unit, men HAD to be made to feel as if there was simply no use in fighting it. The movement had infiltrated every walk of life and still it wasn’t enough. Just being there would not do; ‘they’ had to be in control.
But in the meantime, every other outspoken, under recognized, welfare thinking minority and social movement joined the flow which only satisfied and strengthened the feminists. Anyone riding those ‘blouse tails’ was welcome as long as they shared the common goal of tearing down traditional families. While the majority turned away from the fight and the masses slept in ignorant bliss, North America began to decay and crumble.
There is an old saying that was used on the farm where I grew up; maintenance is easier than repair. We’ve ignored our maintenance duties for so long that we have even past the point of repair. The machine is now broken and it must be scrapped and replaced.
Richard,
Your detail for history and analysis always amazes me. What you have written is spot on and fills in more then a few areas on this post.. I haven’t thought about the Feminist / Homosexual political alliance until this point.. but it makes perfect sense because it seems like the media portrays only Gay Men as an acceptable role model for Men in general.
I’m not an elitist but in many ways I identify more with these groups than with the masses. Statistically of any given population 3% make things happen, 7% are waiting for things to happen and 90% are wondering what the hell just happened. These numbers are evident in the framework of my business when we get busy and grow to as many as 30 employees. Every one of them is replaceable and is a pawn in my game of life. There will always be one or two who offer the others some sense of direction but overall the entire group requires constant supervision. This is not arrogance it’s the truth. Pick anyone at random, remove them from the machine, replace them with another cog and the operation continues. Take one person away, namely me, and progression comes to a halt. Seriously, absolutely nothing would get done except a lot of warm bodies standing around wanting to drain my brain. Once, when we were downsizing after the flurry ended I met two minions at the front door the following morning and asked them “What are you going to do today to make me money.” Their response – blink… blink… (picture a deer in headlights). I latter discovered they spent a week collecting pop cans along a 30 mile stretch of highway south of town. My response – blink… blink… (picture a wolf on the hunt).
To be honest, I didn’t cry on September 11, 2001.
Mick,
I don’t think this thread has much to do with an elitist mind set verses a deer in the headlights or the masses of “sheeple” that can do little more than what some higher ranked flunkie tells them to do.
One fact that is clearly evident in today’s corporate or industrial workplace is that everyone is equally replaceable. I’ve witnessed more than one downsizing that started at the top with replacements coming from the ranks below to excel far beyond the previously stagnant leadership.
Try to remember that arrogance is the shortcut to personal failure. It doesn’t matter what “successes” you claim, being disrespectful of those who labor at lower levels of the business structure than you, is pure ignorance. They are the very people who keep you looking good most of the time. Any “leader” is only as good as those who support him.
As far as 9-11, I doubt if anyone cares whether or not you shed a tear that day, but if you are implying that it was of little consequence because of your lofty image of yourself, then I can only say that it is too bad you weren’t there that morning.
Richard,
This is my response to the video. This may seem cold but I have no dilemma with the will of the masses being curtailed.
And on 9-11 I didn’t rejoice either. I can remember being indifferent then and now. Similar to the emotion my great grandfather expressed when he heard the news of a family who died in a corn bin on a distant farm when he said, “I bet that silage can be bought cheap.”
Mick,
I hope any Russian woman, American woman or woman of any nationality that reads your comments has the same reaction I did. You are patently illogical, woefully ignorant, heartless, and dangerous.
Samuel Reid Ogilvie, Jr.
Wilkesboro, North Carolina, U.S.A.
Sir, you read my mind.
Mike, looking at how things have changed I doubt in the future the power will be with the top people. China already owns some America land and America already owes them alot of money. Ironicaly I heard they plan of remaking the movie Red Dawn with the Chinese taking over America. And the top people can not control Islam (which is growing). I am not gloating I am just pointing out a fact. I should point out I doubt top people will get much support from the common person. Just as I doubt a true religouse Christian would feel sorry for the top people or muslims.
Mike I see that you have a say you do not care about the will of the masses curtailed. I want to point out another thing In Europe which I doubt is doing better then America (which has the same problems) we are having more and more people that have no loyalty to anyone. Muslims pledge no loyalty unmarried men have no loyalty to anyone, same as unmarried or childless women (yes feminism is still around but it is becoming apparent that the younger women will not pledge loyalty to them). But if you think about it what reason do they have to pledge loyalty to anyone. And I am sure any married people would nowdays pladeg no loyalty to any outsiders.
Mick,
I guarantee that you either have or soon will be on the receiving end of the same cold indifference (and quite frankly arrogance) that you project towards others. When it happens and you feel like a poor little victim just remember that you heard it from me first. You are inviting disaster into your life and the foundations for your false self-esteem are already fractured beyond repair.
You may have 30 some odd people supporting your butt on the totem pole.. but just keep in mind of those above sitting on your head who wouldn’t bat an eye to flush you down the toilet as well.
Karma is just like gravity.. being on the wrong side of it is a b**ch. And so soon you will be someone else’s as well.
Which strike cracks the rock?
I’ve only ever really loved one woman in my lifetime. It started after my sophomore year of high school when she began pursuing/stalking me. For weeks her advances were ignored but eventually I gave in and asked her out on a date to the Olive Garden which began a summer filled with long walks, drives in the country, eating out, watching movies and doing everything together young couples do – everything that is except getting physical. Don’t get me wrong she was attractive with a nice buxom figure and big tits, a real Holstein but I was too principled or maybe naive to follow any of the clues she was leaving that she wanted more. Lesser men would have given in to temptation but by God’s grace I was preserved.
With the summer ending not having rounded the diamond or even making it to first base there was this funny feeling creeping into my heart. I might not be a smart man but I know what love is. I was falling in love but soon discovered the feelings were not mutual. One Friday, late in the summer, shortly before school started back she called on an impulse and wanted to go out but with work to be done I declined to be with her. Not more than an hour later that evening my father saw her on the town with another guy. When he told me the news I was devastated. My countenance left me and it’s one of the few times in my life that I cried. I learned this “Romeo” had been secretly wooing her for some time going to her bedroom window and talking with her late into the night. He even lit the bushes around her family’s house on fire as an expression of his love. Who can compete with that?
I never told her I knew of her philandering and moved on trying to forget anything happened. When school started again I saw her every day but so did “Romeo” and any interaction between me and her became cold and distant. I felt like there was a knife in my heart. Eventually, without this contributing to my decision but with no love lost, I decided to enroll in a parochial school. As I was going from class to class getting my transfer papers signed by my teachers, she met me in the hallway weeping. Without her saying a word she loaded up with a clinched fist and punched me as hard as she could. She finally got the physical contact she so desired. Without me saying a word I could hear the words of Cee Lo Green in my head, “F*** YOU”, what goes around comes around and I haven’t spoken with her since.
Unlike Sam who looks for the good in everyone, I’ve learned to expect malevolence. My reactions aren’t Karma but the completion of it.
Which strike cracks the rock? The first strike and the last strike and… every… strike… in… between…
Mick,
My wish is that you will meet someone someday who keeps on giving when you have ceased, someone who keeps on loving when you have couldn’t care less, someone who keeps on communicating when you have given up and become silent, and someone who sees the good in you and encourages you to express that good and live that good each and every day. That woman is out there. She’s not an everyday kind of girl. She never has been and never will be. She’s living on a higher plane and you will need to be vigilant, diligent and blessed to find her.
Religion and faith aside, my favorite story in the whole wide world is that of the “Prodigal Son”. As you know, the father in that story scans the horizon daily for signs of his son. That son rejected him, rejected everything he stood for, everything he worked for and in moving away, rejected his companionship and love. The day the father spotted his son far in the distance, he did a shameful thing for a Jewish man of the day. He raised his robe and ran to meet his son. He endured shame to express his love and the joy he felt. That’s the kind of love I am talking about. It transcends karma, and our own inclinations. It keeps on flowing when everything else is done.
I’m wondering if any of you has ever written another man’s paycheck.
My mom has, every day. She is also one of the most compassionate, moral person I know. She also cried on September 11th, because she isn’t completely soulless. The story you told about your grandfather proves that you had no one to teach you to be compassionate or sympathetic. Frankly, you sound like someone has hurt you profoundly. I think it is time for you to reflect on your life.
Obviously I meant, “She is the most compassionate, moral person I know.” Just woke up!
Yes Mick, I have many times written another man’s or woman’s paycheck and rarely have I ever treated them as easily replaceable underlings or worse.
In photography the assistants make me look good because they do the grunt work that I would normally do, which slows the creative process and allows me less time with the subjects I’m shooting.
In commercial photofinishing, my chemical mixers, film handlers, darkroom techs, paper processors, color correctors and counter staff keep revenues up by being efficient and easy to work with BUT that is because I always treated each of them as a part of the whole process; they told me what changes needed to be made in order to keep the work running through.
In the check printing facility I trusted my employees to let me know whenever they came up with an idea that could benefit the process as a whole.
And in retail, I told everyone that I ever hired that they could be as happy with their job as they chose to be by merely respecting the customers, the corporation and me (in that order). We frequently set sales records in a major discount department store at a time when profits were pretty flat.
I have hired people with weak resumes and fired people who were amazingly knowledgeable in their field, but by respecting their abilities and commitment to the job, I have almost never let anyone go on bad terms.
A few months back a friend who I’ve known for twenty years called and left a message. He wanted to talk but the call was dismissed and lost in the shuffle of life because I was too busy with work. I’d forgotten all about returning his call until two months afterward one Sunday morning when I saw him sitting at church alone. During the meet and greet he came over to shake my hand and I asked him how his wife was doing. He said not so well, she had cancer and her time was short. That afternoon I visited with them at their home for dinner and one week later she was dead. She was a sweet lady and her laughter would fill any room. From when I heard the news, to her death and even now I didn’t cry once and I’m certain none of you did either, including Gillian’s mother.
Mick, I am not at all sure what you are trying to say, but your response to your friend’s death is sad in my opinion. You did not say whether the loss saddened you or whether or not you sympathized with the surviving spouse. I hope both. There’s not a thing wrong with crying either. I’ve seen many a fine man cry like a baby, and for good reason. Merry Christmas, Mick. Take care.
Just to let everyone know, I am not trying to support an author here but I did find this comment by Dr. James Dobson quite interesting. Regarding his latest book, “Bringing Up Girls” he said, “Although our daughters are doing rather well academically and on some measures of social and personal health, in many ways, I am even more concerned about girls than boys. So much has changed for the worse in recent years. They are under enormous pressures rarely experienced by their mothers, grandmothers and previous generations. Today’s little girls are being enticed to grow up too fast and are encountering challenges for which they are totally unprepared. This is a generalization with many exceptions, of course, but far too many females are in trouble.”
I certainly agree.
Mick,
I have been self-employed since 1988. Times are very tough now, but we continue to strive to produce products of outstanding quality at resonable prices. If people are given the opportunity to contribute more than just labor and if they are treated with the dignity and respect they deserve as human beings, they are surprisingly productive and effective. The welfare of my neighbors and those I work with is of great importance to me.
Our economic, social and political systems are based on the premise that the individual is of great value, and if given the means(education,etc.) she or he is perfectly capable of making good decisions; decisions that benefit her personally, and, in effect, society at large. We have seen shortcomings in our systems come to light, but, as of yet, no perfect system as evolved. Hopefully we are not too arrogant to consider the successes of our neighbors around the world, and have the courage to adopt some of their best practices.
9-11 was a crime against hardworking men and women, literally from around the world, who had gathered that morning to work. It saddens me each time I think of the loss people suffered. Children, spouses, parents, siblings, friends, colleagues and fellow human beings were left in tears, and I was one of them.
Sam,
How many of your employees would keep working if you stopped paying them? My best guess is zero. So essentially you are controlling them with money.
I personally think that asking such a question makes you look like a fool. People work for pay because that is the necessity of modern life. Asking who might continue to work for free is moronic. People with full time jobs still do volunteer work and generally speaking the busier a person is already, the more likely they are to take on and complete some other side venture. The number of people that might keep working through some “temporary” situation where wages are frozen would be a testament to their character, but that would be a rare and unique situation. Believe me, I am completely confident in saying that I have had such employees in the past and I also know that I could find such people in the future if I were to need employees again.
Westerngirl,
You have brought up a couple of strong truths about our current state of affairs.
First, the financial take over of American (and Canadian) business interests by the Chinese. I see this strategy like the three prongs of a pitch fork; each prong buried deeply and causing the near certainty of being bled to death.
The prongs are government indebtedness, massive immigration, and financial infiltration from within. The American government (and to only a slightly lesser degree the Canadian government) has mortgaged our entire nation(s) to a country which boasts the highest population on Earth.
As some political contrarians believe, myself included, China is producing far more raw gold than anyone knows about. The amount of mining currently underway in China and the true tonnage is not fully known, because China is very much an isolationist country in most respects. They go “outside” their country for only that which benefits themselves most directly. (a very shrewd philosophy to my way of thinking) Their ability to refine massive amounts of gold at a time where gold is at the highest point in history and still climbing is a vitally important cornerstone to the grander scheme in this plan. “He who controls the most gold, controls the world”.
There is little question in my mind why the liberal/socialist NA governments are worried about gold prices and why they would like to remove gold and silver as the standards by which all currency is valued; it is because we are no longer competitive in that arena. NA gold production is nowhere near the levels it must be to sustain us in the world marketplace. For this reason, NA is borrowing beyond its ability to pay from the one country on Earth who has the money to lend; China. The first prong.
Adding to that is the enormous volume of Chinese who are moving to NA because of its lax laws on immigration. Simply put, there is no place on the planet easier to emigrate to than either the US or Canada. Many countries allow little or no immigration at this time and most have very strict limitations on who can come, why they are coming, how long they can stay and once there can almost never become a land or business owner. In most countries an immigrant can not own any real property or business without at the very least acquiring a local partner. The immigration floodgates are wide open in NA and the Chinese are making up a large percentage of that influx. Another prong.
Because the US and Canada have virtually no such restrictions regarding businesses and property for their immigrants, and in fact strongly encourage newcomers to get attached as quickly as possible, large portions of our domestic economy are now being held and monopolized by various socio-ethnic groups. Agriculture, commercial and personal transportation, light manufacturing, and technology in NA are rapidly being bought up and controlled by factions of the population who have their first loyalties on other continents and to other ideologies. The third bloody prong.
What’s more, as you’ve mentioned there is the large percentage of that population which is Muslim. This is the most openly disruptive and by far the most dangerous of all of the underlying pieces to the puzzle. If Islam believes that ‘killing an infidel, which is a command to all Muslims, assures them of a place in heaven’ and if ‘anyone that does not believe in Islam is an infidel’, then why are we in NA allowing this uncontrolled surge of Islamic immigration and control of major segments of our industry and economy to those who are sworn to kill us? The ironic insanity of the whole thing staggers the intelligent mind.
When you say, “China already owns some America land and America already owes them a lot of money” and “Islam is growing”, you have understated the point a great deal. It is much worse than you might think, unless you were just trying to play it down to some degree.
You have a very good grasp of the political picture in my opinion. So how do we find the people and the relationships to turn this tide away and get back to some sense of rationality? I hope that by continuing to bring open minded people to places like this, we can lay the groundwork for a revival of strong families driven by common sense and common goals.
My guess is I understanded it since living in the rurals I do not feel the pressure that much then if I lived in say example in New York. In my view America is most likely heading in the direction of shutting itself up or at the least tightening the boarders. One thing I seen more with my eyes is the immigration issue. In the 1990s going to Texas to see my grandparents (I was in middle school at the time) was an eye opener to me. I remember at Sea World and at the swimming pool signs and speaker gave information and directions in both English and Spanish (something I doubt many countries would do). However, going with my parents to New Jersey to see a friend was more of an eye opner to me. Starting in my college years and work years I have started to see some muslim immigrants (so far they usualy do not perfer to live in the rurals). We had some Somolians(who live in a muslim country) in my state working for tyson (until Tyso let them go and cut it’s size). When I drove into the college town I would notice them straight off. They were young and appeared to love to shop. I would see women in head scarfs wearing fancy jeans and shirts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw&NR=1&feature=fvwp
How is the World Bank, the New World Order and Feminism related?
Imagine that there is no legal entity able to oppose any of it.
Imagine that there can be no legal entity able to oppose any of it.
When family is disjointed in alliance and spirit, all else is open for social/political abuse. And as they say, history repeats itself.
Institutionalized familial, political impotence.
Part of the antidote to the SS, Secret Societies
is a spiritual empowering system. A real one.
Not one which acts as a cane for the weak
and disabled.
The truth of the SS is that they themselves
are controlled by the Darkside, the greed
entity.
Then in physical, withholding, through a
populist supported movement. Withholding
of taxes.
The arrest of the SS and the re-democratization
of the free world with a checks and balances
system similar to the two leader Russian
system.
There is the learning curve and then there
is the direct line of action.
For the time being, I became expert in re-investing
of profit. My taxes are ordinary Russian people.
My voluntary taxes support some of these people.
The SS are not panicking because they don’t
believe that they can be stopped. Just like
all the others through time. Where are they
now?
The SS is virtually the strong attacking
the weak. Or is the indescribably foolish?
For there is never any system which escapes
God’s law.
So why do they do it? To get attention. They
are lost and feel alone. So much for the
illusion of the omnipotent SS.
Regards.
So how do they exactly brainwash kids in American kindergardens?
I just can tell that most of Russia’s population had gone to kindergarden. Where even in Soviet times I don’t remember any sort of brainwashing. And Russian kids start going to kindergarden from the age of 2. Because quite frankly most women cannot handle staying with a kid at home on their own for more than 3 years, either financialy or emotionally.
Imo kindergarden is a great invention. It gives little ones necessary social expirience and allows both parents to have a job.
By the way, with regards to kindergarten; I’m not sure what you mean by “Imo” but in NA kindergarten is only the year before grade one and it does not begin as early as age 2. For children that young over here, they begin with pre-school, but the idea that either of these give a toddler “necessary social experience” is simply more of the same propaganda and rhetoric from 50 years of feminism.
The more we study early childhood development, the more clearly we see a direct correlation between academic achievement and children who were raised by stay at home mothers who chose not to put their children in pre-schools. What’s more, the highest scoring American high school graduates are nearly always home schooled for most or all of their childhood and they tend to rate higher psychologically as well as in social development.
The move to earlier and earlier release of children from parental control has manifested in higher incidents of substance abuse, lower academic achievement, and increased juvenile crime statistics.
Mothers getting from the birthing room back to the board room as fast as possible is entirely about feminism and has never been in the best interest of the children.
While the economic conditions have played a big part in this shift, remember that this too is a part of the socialist/feminist agenda. The primary tool of socialism is taking apart the family unit and bringing people to rely on government above all else. Feminism is no different. How can the “liberated” woman of today be a committed mother and still be a corporate raider at the same time? Simply put: she can’t. Job first; family . . . . . somewhere down the list.
“Allowing” both parents to have a job? Are you kidding me? You mean, forcing both parents to have a job, don’t you.?
In my direct marketing group, we have an expressed goal for nearly all of our young couples. It came from several consecutive years of asking married people, daily, what the first thing they would do if money were no object in their life. Without hesitation, almost every man AND woman said that the wife being home was their first priority. Not a new house, new car, better location; just bring mom home so she could be a mom.
The prevalent belief that our modern culture is “the way it’s supposed to be” is a load of garbage, to put it nicely. When I hear people doubt the effect that feminist “brainwashing” has had on our society, I simply look at them and think, “There’s another one, now”. It is (generally) only the victims who can’t see the effect.
Richard,
Imo is short for “in my opinion”. Some todlers need a person who is not their mother to teach them to behave. Because sometimes they just don’t listen. And many kids start misbehaving around 2. And I don’t think you can dismiss it simply as “propaganda and rhetoric from 50 years of feminism”.
As for academic achivements of children who were raised by stay at home mums are always higher that the ones who’s gone through nursery school, pre-school, kindergarden whatver you call it, I find it doubtful. I don’t think every mother is capable of educating her children.
“Allowing” both parents to have a job? Are you kidding me? You mean, forcing both parents to have a job, don’t you? -
Yes allowing both parents to have a job if they want to. And I was not talking about corporate ladder btw. You seem to think that if a woman has a job it’s all about her climbing up to the top. I assure you a lot of women here succesfully combine being profesionals at work and being good mothers at home.
It looks like that people in your direct marketing group don’t know what it’s like to enjoy the job one is doing.It’s more about making more and more money and crave for more power. That’s tiring. And boring.
My question however was about “Brainwashing in Kindergartens” what do they exactly do? Show kids pictures of empowered women and say “look that’s what you want to be” or read them books about homesexuals? (I’m serious here I once saw this German book for children where father leaves mother and starts living with a man =/ )Or else?
Kisha that is interesting that the age of kindergarden is 2 years old in? Some people may be shocked at that but going to kindergarden but historicaly lookign at communism, socialism, and fascism (also called national socialism) the kids at a young age were sent off to spend alot of time with outsiders. Granted the WW2 situation is currently not happening in Russia or America. Such I doubt kids are told to tell on thier parents (which happened in Nazi Germany). Now if you are told things at a young age over and over again you will eventualy believe it is true. However, for an adult acts of blind foldinding, chaining up, confined in a small space, preventing sleep etc would be used for brainwashing. I am pointing out things that were done in the past including experiements. I am not going as far as to be a conspiracy theorist. I am also not trying to get in a politcal aurgument or make you mad. It would be fun to visit Russia.
Just to be clear, there are countless ways to control a person’s thinking; brainwashing.
By far, the most effective way to control people is to begin at a very early age by indoctrinating their thoughts and ideologies with your own agenda. In the case of Nazi Germany, as you’ve said, it went so far as to teach young children to spy on and turn in their own parents and other relatives. What is most horrendous about that is that we still see similar tactics in use today. It is not uncommon for schools to explain why (for example) paying for services in cash to avoid sales tax could be considered a crime and how it undermines the financial stability of your community, and further that there can be financial returns for exposing people who do such things regularly.
But for our purposes here, the great concern is that by outsourcing the impressionable minds of our small children to day-cares, pre-schools and kindergartens, we have left them and ourselves vulnerable to any number of philosophies which might conflict with our own. I am a Christian so it would be foolish for me to have sent my daughter to a secular pre-school where they would present evolution, socialism/liberalism/feminism or “My Two Mommys” as ‘normal’.
A parent “teaches” their children the family values that they believe in. When an outsider is offering conflicting views with the intent to alter that child’s way of thinking, it is paramount to ‘retraining’ or even ‘brainwashing’ in my opinion.
I have a right as a parent to teach my children what I believe is the truth. No one else has a right to try to undermine that parental authority. When our schools, our government or our society tries to replace each individual as a parent, we all lose.
Our modern social mentality is to let a few handfuls of outspoken minorities dictate policy and practice to the majority. That has never been the ‘right’ thing to do and we can see how far down it has taken us as a people.
Keeping our children at home until they are legally required to be educated is a strong way to instill family values before subjecting them to conflict and confusion before they are mature enough to deal with it intelligently.
Westerngirl,
In my opinion it’s the matter of how much the parents are interested in what’s going on in the heads of their children.
My rents always used to tell me not to believe in the stories about Lenin and communism other adults might told me. In school we had pictures of Lenin everywhere and he was portrayed like a “kind grandfather”. Mum would always shake her head a bit and say “It’s not like that, you will understand when you grow a bit older”. And after she told me that I started to notice that my teachers were not really passionate about communism either.
Kisha,
I have first had experience of Russian kinder-garden brain washing and earliest most traumatic experiences of my life. One story comes to my mind is told by my mother since I don’t remember it. She was in shock when one morning on a way to kinder-garden (I’m about 3 y.o) I’ve asked her how we are going to live now since our leader is dead ( I think it was around time when Chernenko have died). It was a lot of propaganda at that time and even 3 year olds were taught to be scared and concerned with state matters. Or when a handicap girl in my group (she didn’t have all five finders) was punished by a teacher for not eating soup when that teacher pour it down her clothes. And school experience wasn’t much better. Have you seen movie “Shkola”? There is no social skills in our kids these days, unless hatred and bulling is a social skill. The only refuge from the system was my friends (who rebel as much as I did), books, and family who was always there to support. My grandmother retired earlier so she can spend more time at home with me since my parents didn’t have such luxury. Believe me, my mother who worked very hard (since my father past away early and we had only one income) and had a very successful career, would change things in a heart beat and spend more time with her family if she could. And she retired at 51, so she can do just that – be with her family.
Evsuhka, you story is inspiring. I am very interested in pursuing a career in early childhood education, and horrible teachers like you described make me even more passionate. How someone could throw hot soup onto an innocent child is beyond me! Your grandmother and mother are fantastic role models.
Evushka, my kindergarden experience happened a bit later than yours, in Perestroyka times so maybe that explains the absense the sort of stuff you were talking about. It was alright, nothing political just old toys, morning porrige and lots of mosquitos in summer.
I’m surprised you’ve mentioned “Shkola” show because everything you have there is an offspring of capitalism and consumerism. Bulling has never been a problem of Russian schools, well until recently it seems. This is an exclusively western kind of thing.
If your mum wasn’t the only breadwinner, then she would probably be less pressured about the money and could do with less stressful job she enjoyed for a longer period of time.
But in the end of the day, she’s happy to be where she is now isn’t she?
Whether or not we use the term “brainwashing” is irrelevant. The simple reality of modern culture is to portray all girls and women as highly intelligent, quick thinking, problem solvers and all boys and men as dim witted, clumsy, bumbling idiots. This is playing out everywhere from a toddler’s first book to feature length Hollywood movies. It is a premise set forth in advertising, television programming, music, literature and anywhere else you look. This way of thinking was at the heart of the feminist movement from the early 60s right up until today.
All females are NOT super women and all men are NOT mindless incompetents. The world around us has made it clear that being a man is almost a biological curse while being a woman is like being touched by the hand of God.
Furthermore, since feminism was never about equality and since standard NA behavior is to always be completely in one extreme or the other, we have little chance of seeing this trend return to some middle ground during any of our lifetimes.
Add to this the modern view of homosexuality; first as “normal” and then as even preferable to traditional gender rolls, and what we have is queer men being held in higher social esteem than straight men and lesbians regarded as the voice of femininity.
And we wonder why things are so screwed up in the world?
Whether by nature or divine providence or whatever you choose to call it, men are supposed to be men and women are supposed to be women. Teaching our children that either gender is automatically superior is ignorant, and teaching them that every aberration is normal only further dilutes reality.
“It is a premise set forth in advertising, television programming, music, literature and anywhere else you look.”
I agree absolutely Richard. I didn’t think too much about this until recently when one pays attention to the lyrics, its really apparent. The propaganda and brainwashing is there in full force. One only has to pay attention and notice it. It’s scary really that this is going on.
I think the best strategic answer to all this would be to shut the media in. I mean I don’t have a television set. And when a person stops watching TV, he closes the pathway of evil. And also, it opens up much time to read, to think and analyze and really understand what’s going on. Unplugging from the matrix is what we all need to do. And to boycott the media, we deny them of ad revenues. We deny them revenue, deny them the money and power to influence, to brainwash.
Having no cable does help keep you free thinking. However, I should point out when I went to college I noticed how some of the professors spoke up willingly about their liberal beliefs. So sadly I see what we term brainwashing happening in public schools when children are small. And now it is apperent there are people who would like to control the internet because they hate the fact people can use it to talk abou things they do not what to be read or heard by the population.
One listens to lyrics today and hear about girls being grown up and needing to be independent and alone. You watch movies and there isn’t that happy ending anymore. Either the hero, or heroine dies. And you get movies like Brokeback mountain that basically supports homosexuality. In fifth grade, admins are passing out condoms and implementing classes to teach kids where the pleasure areas are.
In my province, they wanted to pass a new sex education curriculum that would have meant that 8 year olds were learning about anal sex. Parents were so outraged (thank god!) that the bill wasn’t passed.
I know little about history, the existence or nonexistence of conspiracies or even what might be the familial ideal, but I can say that working women have been highly influential in a very positive way in my past and continue to be a source of great support at present. A black woman, who worked her way through a graduate program at New York University by cleaning homes and taught in segregated schools in my county before finally teaching elementary kids of mixed races, was my finest teacher. A small, slight female chemistry instructor at Ohio State motivated and encouraged me like no one had before. Currently, my gastroenterologist, a female of some acclaim, has exceeded all my expectations, and her kindness, humility and medical prowess have been all that’s kept me going at times. I could mention many others, but, in short, I needed or need professional women in my life. No man has stepped up to fill the void they filled or are filling now. Their families also need them. The ones that have children have been good mothers. The success of their children are proof of that. In some cases their families are or were completely reliant on their financial contributions. In others, a second income was not needed. Regardless, these females were working and are working, and females across America and elsewhere are going to continue to work, whether they have children or not. As a man, my concern is how the private sector and governments can best enhance the lives of our citizens. How can we promote positive things like family time, healthy eating, exercise, spiritual development(for those who desire it), mental health, etc. The best employers have been addressing those things for years. The same can be said for governments around the world.
The majority of women I know couldn’t define feminism. Most would say that they simply want the right to choose–the right to choose to stay at home if they desire and if it’s financially feasible,and the right to work if that’s a desire. Of course, any decent person supports equal pay for equal productivity. I refuse to debate an issue I know nothing about, but I speak from personal experience and a practical, realistic point of view. The Lord knows with the current economic situation that mere survival is all most of us small businessmen can address at the moment.
Sam, that’s what I’m talking about.
Many good points, Sam, and I doubt that anyone could dispute much of what you are saying. The fact that some women have excelled in business careers speaks highly of their personal motivation. If they can do that while still having a family, and their family doesn’t suffer for it, all the more cheers to them.
But since those few cases and the few more that any of the rest of us can come up with do NOT speak to the vast majority of marriages, families and careers throughout NA and the world today, it is hardly a reason to discount the truth of how damaging feminism has been. Nobody can say that there aren’t exceptions to every rule. That is, after all, why they’re called exceptions.
Women should have the right to choose careers. However, when choice is forced upon you, it isn’t really a choice at all. Further more, once they have made that choice of career first, I would personally be happy not hearing them bitch and complain about what a tough life they have now.
Since the very beginning of the feminist movement, nothing has ever been good enough. They complained that there weren’t enough opportunities so the government gave them forced quotas, and still they complained. Then the pay wasn’t good enough so the government gave them forced parody, but the complaining continued. Then they demanded better benefits than those already in place (because women have unique needs) and the government gave them extended “family” leaves and additional sick days which men can NOT have, but the complaining goes on. Are you starting to see a pattern here? You see, Sam, I HAVE been discriminated against in the job market because I was a healthy, white, American, male. There was NO non-handicapped favoritism to help me get a job. There was NO racial protection in hiring for me. There was NO “domestic born” programs to help me. And there sure as hell was NO gender favoritism plan to help me in any way. There was nothing to assist me in getting hired even though my GS rating was in the upper 80 percentile while hiring of quota workers went as low as 65%. In my younger days, I was twice replaced in manufacturing jobs by less qualified workers because of a government subsidized employee base designed to fulfill quota mandates.
It is pure socialism/feminism that says adjust the speed of the train by the ability of the slowest car, while capitalism says to repair or replace that car and set your speed by the engine. The old parable about chains being only as strong as their weakest link still holds true today and we have come to the point of no longer testing the strength of the chain at all because we are living in fear of how easily all of the weak links will fail.
How can we best enhance the lives of our citizens? To begin with, remove all elected officials at the next general election and discontinue the option of re-election at every level above city council. (Qualifying candidates must not have a career background that disproportionately represents any career field, based on national demographics) After that, repeal ALL affirmative action legislation put in place since 1965. Then stop any form of hiring practice which leaves a less qualified worker on the job when better workers are readily available. Next freeze wages and salaries for ten years at a rate equal to those of 1985. Stop all immigration for five years with a few notable exceptions. Implement a flat income tax for all personal and corporate incomes, not to exceed 10% of gross earnings.
Trust me, I have more, but I think you get the picture.
Showing preferential treatment to anyone based on race, gender, heritage, lifestyle or anything else is demeaning and disrespectful to THEM. “Fairness Boulevard” and “Equality Avenue” MUST be two way streets.
Hello Richard,
As always, I am impressed with your writing and knowledge of the issues. I agree that anti-discriminatory legislation often leads to reverse discrimination, but I think it is still sorely needed. I say that with great sadness, too. Because I am a white, middle-aged male living in North Carolina, people assume I am the typical prejudiced bigot. For that reason, I am privy to conversations that detail astonishing acts of discrimination. Just last week I heard a conversation between a white male and a white female about their efforts to keep a black male physician from buying a home in a particular neighborhood. Of course it runs both ways, and guys like us need to have our rights protected as well. As I have said before, human nature is not necessarily a pretty thing. We all seem to have an innate desire to hold people beneath us, and any person that denies the occasional urge to do so is not being completely honest. I have spent a lifetime fighting for personal progress in that area.
I am not sure that the traditional family, where the male works and the female stays at home, has ever been the rule here in America. In my neck of the woods, even couples that wanted that arrangement often could not afford it. To me, that is neither here nor there. I am a proponent of choice. Choice when it comes to how to worship, choice when it comes to career decisions, etc. I have a female first cousin who works, while her highly-educated husband stays home. They both were on similar career paths, but she loved working and he hated it. For 15 to 20 years now they have had great success with that arrangement. Now, personally, I would rather eat chalk than stay at home and cook, etc. but I am thrilled that my cousin-in-law enjoys it. I believe that couples can work those issues out for themselves. Unfortunately, the freedom of choice is limited more by economic reality now than by the law of the land.
I refuse to believe that one sex or one movement is responsible for our societal failings, and I base that belief on both personal and corporate experience. The financial meltdown has been blamed on deregulation, but, ultimately, it was caused by the greed and moral failings of thousands of individuals. Just yesterday, I drove several miles on a stretch of highway with a posted speed limit of 65 mph. Is it any surprise to you that I was the only one, and I mean the only one, obeying that law? I claim no moral superiority, but I understand the importance of responsible personal behavior, regardless of whether that behavior is regulated or not.
It all comes down to the individual in my mind. Regardless of nationality, or gender, we are all human. I have encountered extremely rude Russian women and I have encountered extremely rude American women and men as well. I have encountered extremely materialistic Russian women and I have encountered Russian women with higher ideals. How nature and nurture combined to create such differences is the mystery. At any rate, I have rambled some, but I do appreciate your comments, Richard. You are a thinker, and you express yourself very well. Take care.
Hi, Kisha. Thanks for your support. The very fact that an old, white guy in North Carolina, and a young woman in the metropolis of Moscow agree on some major issues gives me some hope for this world. It’s rather amazing to me that the opportunity for any sort of dialogue even exists between individuals and countries. GL is to be thanked in this particular instance. Thanks again for expressing your thoughts.
Kisha,
Sorry about not making the connection with Imo. I thought it was being used in reference to some type of school or education program.
As for kindergarten being a great invention, we need only to trace its roots.
The earliest known development and use of this early childhood education system goes back to Scottish philosopher Robert Owen in 1816. Various other similar models sprang up throughout Europe over the next several years. In 1840, Friedrich Fröbel, who was a devout Christian raised by his father; a Lutheran Pastor, established the first kindergarten, and coined that term (German for “children’s garden”). Fröbel’s mother died when he was just 9 years old but his love of nature and learning set his course to become an educator and it was in his early adulthood that he realized the potential of young children.
The first US kindergarten was established in Watertown, Wisconsin (just a few miles from my home town) in 1856 by Margarethe (Meyer) Schurz, wife of activist/statesman Carl Schurz. She had learned about the concept from her older sister, Bertha Meyer Ronge, who had opened “Infant Gardens” in Europe. Schurz’s first kindergarten was German-language, but she also advocated the establishment of English-language kindergartens. She is credited with converting Elizabeth Peabody to the Fröbel philosophy in 1859 and later that year, Peabody founded the first English-language kindergarten in Boston, following Schurz’s model.
Kindergarten, under these parameters, is indeed a good invention as it was entirely based on the premise that many children were capable of learning more at an earlier age than had been previously believed. But it was also developed by very strongly convicted, traditional family believing, Judeo-Christian people with the primary focus on the children and their needs and abilities.
Now let’s skip ahead about 80 years:
From a late 1930s German report on early childhood education and training:
“For our testing purposes, kindergarten classrooms have been invaluable tools to study and correct early childhood behavior. We have been able to observe and monitor manual dexterity, social interaction, and individual as well as corporate work habits.” ( . . to study and CORRECT . . ) This from Nazi psychologists, many of whom were later tried and executed for crimes against humanity.
Let’s jump forward another 35 years:
In the US during the early 70s the Department of Labor and Industries (L and I), backed in no small part by the National Organization of Women (NOW), lobbied strongly to mandate and enforce kindergarten enrollment nationwide as a way of ‘allowing’ women more employment opportunities outside of the home. The stand that L and I took was that kindergarten would help to instill ‘good work habits’ at an early age. (What ‘good work habits’ are being instilled in 4 year olds? And more importantly, why was NOW so anxious to make it a universal federal mandate?)
From a current, modern encyclopedia:
“In addition to linkages with heath and nutrition, the early childhood education sector addresses several crosscutting issues, including gender. The roots of discrimination against girls, the stereotyping of male and female models of behavior, and the acceptance of male domination and violence against women are formed very early within the family. These values are reinforced in the school, community, and institutions that support children and their families. Since gender-equity issues in education begin in early childhood, the strategy suggested is one of informal community-based programs that support the capacity of families and communities to provide a fair start to girls as well as boys, and help parents better perceive the capabilities of the girl-child, thus leading to a longer period of schooling and increasing the probability that girls will enter and remain in school.” (teaching 4 and 5 year olds ‘gender-equity’ from a female perspective isn’t at all anti-male sexism, is it . . )
What’s more, how many male pre-school and kindergarten teachers do you think there are? In many areas, only men need to file a criminal background check before even being considered for a kindergarten teaching position and gay men are given priority over straight men, either assuming that any straight man wanting to be involved with early childhood development is a sexual predator, or else that gay men are better male role models than straight men. (Give me a freakin’ break!)
This seems like an absolutely amazing series of coincidences, don’t you think? I don’t need a piano to fall on my head to know that it would hurt me.
I have said before that I was originally ready to embrace the women’s movement of the late 60s until I attended a rally in Madison, Wisconsin back in that era. From the introductions of the opening speaker, it was a steady diatribe of how bad men were and how the only way to ever ‘show that we’re better than them’ is to ‘hit them where it hurts’. They preached sex as a tool and as a weapon in ‘the war between the sexes’ (a term I had never heard before that night) and that teasing and playing men to ‘get what you want’ is the only way to succeed. My, my . . . . what a dignified plan of action, and certainly not at all sexist . . . right? (Have I already said, “Give me a freakin’ break”?)
You say that, “many kids start misbehaving around 2” and “some toddlers need a person who is not their mother to teach them to behave”. I can’t personally think of a much dumber statement about parenting than that last one. If you actually believe that, then you are definitely not parenting material. I suppose as soon as ‘your kids’ would start to misbehave, you would want to ditch them on someone else to deal with it. NO ONE has more responsibility to teach children to behave than their own parents, and it is NOT the job of a kindergarten teacher to teach obedience or proper behavior. In fact, children with behavioral problems will often be removed from many kindergartens in NA until they are ‘taught’ (by their parents) how to act in group settings.
A small child’s behavior is not “propaganda and rhetoric from 50 years of feminism” but the way you have responded certainly is.
With specific regards to stay at home and home schooled children in NA, for the past 15 to 20 years, it is a matter of record that home schooled children progress faster and achieve higher marks than students of both public and private schools. Consistently, the highest SAT (Scholastic Aptitude/Assessment Test) scores which are used for college entrance placement, have come from students that were home schooled.
To the women in your country who want to work; God bless them. The same in my country. But needing to work as a way to survive because one pay check per household won’t do it, is NOT a choice, it is an economic imperative.
Many of the working women that I know enjoy what they do. They would simply PREFER to not HAVE to work outside of the home.
Speaking from a NA perspective, I say if you want to be a career person, go for it. (and I don’t just mean corporate ladder climbing) but when your children are given less of your creative time and nurturing ability because you’ve put job before family, then don’t complain that the world is somehow unfair. The world IS unfair. And it’s been strikingly unfair to men for hundreds of years with regards to family.
In NA women just can NOT quit bitching and moaning about not ‘having it all’. Well, ‘la-dee-da’. Men DON’T have it all either, and we never have to the best of my knowledge.
My dad worked 8 to 10 hours a day, 5 or 6 days a week at GM and then came home to do farm work until bed time. My mom got everyone ready for work and school, then went to her job as a hospital dietician and came home to make dinner and do all of the rest of the household work that still needed doing. My brother and I did farm chores before and after school. But guess what? We still went hunting, fishing, camping, played sports, went to movies, and lots more. When my brother joined the Marine Corps, I took over his night job at the local bakery and when I moved away from home I started to get my first look at how well the feminist movement removed me from the job market. I spent two years unemployed, doing part time farm work and strike labor because government imposed quotas needed to be filled before choosing more qualified applicants.
I really don’t need to hear a lot of ‘theories’ about gender equality or how tough it is being able to make a living. Been there my whole life.
In NA, we are very definitely a product of the socialist/feminist agenda and our schools (and pre-schools) work very hard at teaching aberrations to the status quo as being ‘perfectly normal’ no matter how much of a departure they are. It has led us to a point where there is no ‘normal’ any more, and I believe that to be a moral wasteland. We see it manifest in our problems of obesity, substance abuse, depression, violent crime, unpunished social injustice, and nearly every other area of modern life.
What you have seen growing up in a predominantly socialist environment is surely different than what we have here in NA, because we were taught that our culture was democratic and capitalistic. But please try to understand that that is why many of us men are coming to sites like this in the first place. Some of us still believe that there are a few women left in the world who put value on traditional role models and traditional families.
Richard, IMO stands for “in my opinion”.
Great history extract. Thank you.
Thanks Evushka.
As a student I never cared much for history but as an adult it is a passion of mine.
Richard, thanks for the historical info.
Just to answer your questions shortly.
I think they are going a bit too far with all these women related studies in America. And this gender-equity is a bit odd, given we are talkig about 5y olds. Same for gay men. In fact I believe pedophiles are often attracted to little boys as well. So chosing gay men over straight men when it comes to kids education makes little sense.
I would now ask you try to withhold from argumentum ad hominem, because that’s not really a constructive discussion I would expect one person to have with another.
Some kids misbehave. Some don’t. I’ve never said I think other people should be responsible for others’ kids behaviour. But spending some time around other people may help to alter kid’s behaviour. Kids at that age can be very manipulative. I’ve seen a sweetest boy turning into a monster few times a day and driving his mother nuts. He didn’t do it to his dad, just to his mum. After his mother started bringing him few times a week to a kindergarden where he stayed for 3 hours a day and played with other kids and a teacher. This 3 hours helped him mum to relax and react the right way to his throwing himself on the floor and crying his head off. He once tried it with the teacher but was ignored and stoped crying soon after he realized no one was going to pay attention to his squelings. That’s the kind of thing I was talking about. Not quite ditching them on someone else is it?
Summing up everything you said about American pre-school education… Everything seems to be difficult in the USA, wouldn’t want my kids to grow up there.
Kisha,
This may well be my last post here because I think I have made my points, and advanced my knowledge of a region of the world that was truly foreign to me. I have great respect for rw_man and his desire to help others enjoy the kind of life that he has built for himself. I also respect all the people that take the time to post here, and I believe what they say about the things they have experienced. Nevertheless, my experience as an American and a white, middle-aged male has been entirely different. At any rate, what prompted this response was the last statement you made: “Everything seems to be difficult in the USA, wouldn’t want my kids to grow up there”. First, I know something about your native intelligence and educational accomplishments, so I am sure you understand that the experience of the few and their assessment of those experiences shouldn’t lead you to form an opinion about the whole. I really want you to know that, despite the serious challenges we face in this country, generally, men and women get along famously. I want you to know that the country is full of slender, attractive, kind and generous females who are free to live the lives of their choosing. I could take you to large shopping malls,museums, ballgames, etc. within a 80 mile radius of here and you would see women dressed beautifully,too. The dress habits of all Americans has become much more casual as a rule, but I have seen my share of those who dress very nicely. Most importantly, women in America are free to choose what they would like to be. A young woman is free to become a homemaker, or a gastroenterologist if she desires. I want you to know that our educational system does a decent job of teaching the masses. Children of all levels of ability, and cultural heritage are lumped together, and our educators work hard to help each and every one reach his/her potential. I have nieces and nephews who have completed, or nearly so, their public educations, and I can say, without reservation, that they were challenged, and encouraged and taught to think for themselves and to form their own opinions. I can’t think of one instance where they were brainwashed or led astray. Of course, private schools that emphasize particular religions, philosophies, etc. are heavily attended and exist in most every community.
Finally, our system of government has worked wonderfully, but it is sloppy, loud, slow, and imperfect. To outsiders, it may not appear to be something to be admired, but few here would welcome a different system. Rest assured, too, that millions of us have great admiration and respect for your country and others. We admire your resilence, your technological prowess, and a cultural/arts community that is second to none. It is my hope that you can visit us some day for an extended period of time. I am confident that your experience will be a positive one. We make no claim of perfection, but most of us are trying very hard to be decent people.
What a beautiful post, Sam.
I would be sad to see you leave this site, but I understand your reasons – I have felt and do feel the same from time to time. I wish you all the best!
Dear Sam,
Thank you very much for tolerance and frendliness you showed in all posts here.
It was a pleasure to have you here.
In fact there’s a upcomming business trip to the US I’m quite looking forward to, hope it will give me a chance to see for myself. And I’m also quite confident it will be a positive experience.
Richard, with all due respect and sincerity and in my humble opinion, you have had one hell of a negative experience in life. The late, great Duane Allman once said, “There are assholes and good people wherever you go. One just needs to spend as much time around the good ones as possible”. I really wish you could have spent more time around those good ones and not the bad.
I’ve been lucky in life, I guess, but I approach all people the same way. I expect them to be nice, fair and helpful and they generally are. If they misinterpret my friendliness, my compliments and my interest in their welfare and opinions, I figure that’s their problem, and I keep moving. Contrary to your experience, I can say that the fact that I am a white, Anglo-Saxon Protestant male has worked in my favor–wrong as that is. Women here in the South like men, they want men to succeed. For heavens sake, I have had women buy plants from me when I knew good and well they had no need for them. They weren’t looking for a date or any favors either. All of them were married and had their husbands with them, in fact. Yes, my experience is limited and, perhaps, is the exception, but I can’t speak about what I don’t know.
Concerning youth, I see the same problems with them regardless of what kind of home they come from. People derided Hilary Clinton when she said that it takes a village to raise a child, but she was absolutely correct. If you don’t believe that, then ask all the parents around the country why private day schools and home schools have grown exponentially. That’s the marvelous thing about our country. We have the freedom to choose, and act on our choices.
Richard, I imagine our life experiences differ dramatically mainly because we grew up in regions that differ dramatically, but that may not be the case. Frankly, I see little difference in people around the globe. I have exchanged literally hundreds of letters and phone calls with women in Russia, Ukraine, Latvia and elsewhere, and have observed some cultural differences but little else. If anything, generally speaking, females in the Southeast are more polite than those in Eastern Europe and Western Asia. Unfortunately, I was unable to make the mostly prepaid trip to St. Petersburg that I had planned in February, due to a nasty case of the H1N1 virus, but I doubt a visit in person would have changed my beliefs. I am convinced that nice women and nice men can be found everywhere. Good and bad, we all want to be loved as close to unconditionally as possible and we all want the freedom to express ourselves without censorship and retribution. We humans are a complicated lot, but love is really what we are all after.
Sam,
It’s really a pleasure to read your posts as you too seem to put serious thought into what you have to say.
We are very much alike in many ways, I think. The middle age, Caucasian, male designation says that most likely we have both seen enough of what life has to offer and far too much of some other things.
Growing up where I did, bigotry was everywhere but I never knew it existed until my first summer in town. We met a black kid our age as the school year ended and ‘for some reason’ his family had moved away before school started again in the fall.
By the time I hit high school it was common for me to notice the amount of fear and hatred in the world and I was ready to do anything to put matters right. Even though I was pretty conservative overall, I was anxious to see some serious reform in our government. Little did I know that such reform wasn’t likely to ever happen. I hadn’t realized just how well laid out the ‘second government’ was so I still thought we could simply vote out bad politicians and replace them with better ones. Even after seeing the last real president die in Dallas, I was under the impression that the system ‘could’ work.
Oh well. Live and learn I guess.
The thing that always bothered me though, was the way the political machine ‘made’ its changes. I was taught that majority carried the weight and that by simply voting our heart and our conscience, we could (as a people) build on great ideas and flush out bad ones. As we know now, that simply isn’t the case. Majorities have less say than tiny fragments of our society do, and those fragments don’t ‘build’ on anything. Minorities bark, then some special interest group picks up their complaint, and then the lobbyists go to work destroying the foundations of good ideas and replace everything with some ill conceived, forgery of fair legislation. After that the majority is forced to dance to a tune they’ve never heard before. It defies logic, yet it is the modern version of ‘due process’.
Take the ruling in California this week; a judge hears a case to overturn an initiative which passed by 52.1 percent of the voters. First problem, as I understand it, the judge is hearing a case which can not legally be brought before that particular court. There are legal channels for requesting such an action but the group sponsoring this request took it to the wrong level of the judicial system, which by law, makes the ruling, itself, illegal. Second problem, the judge (Vaughn Walker) is openly a proponent for the side asking for the ruling which means by the oath of his position; Judge Walker should have recused himself from hearing it. Since Walker is a practicing homosexual, clearly representing a conflict of interest, the case itself and any relative merits thereof, must be heard by another judge and only in the appropriate court.
This is NOT the will of the people since Prop 8 is the second such item to pass in less than 10 years by a clear majority of the state’s voting population. However, my point is not whether or not Prop. 8 is right, but rather that the topic of these actions is meaningless if the process isn’t followed to the letter and intent of the law. Prop. 8 was brought before the elections commission for the State of California and was allowed on the ballot as ‘legal’ under state statutes. The voters spoke and the proposition passed.
Our whole discussion about a ‘normal’ family dynamic in NA for however long we’re talking about, is almost as obscure in Wisconsin as it is down in North Carolina. I knew many ‘untraditional’ families growing up, especially after moving to town. But for the most part, I don’t see many men holding on to that particular, narrow definition of family life. Most of us know that The Donna Reed Show and Leave It To Beaver were not exactly average households. Still, even with many of my childhood friends’ families being two income homes, mothers were the daytime ‘go to’ people as well as primary cooks, cleaners and nurturers. That seems normal to me, but like I tried to explain in another post, the vast majority of young, urban, married couples that I meet almost every day; most of the wives would ‘rather’ be at home with their kids and/or making a safe and comfortable life for everyone. I find that admirable to say the least. That said, there was a time when my dream marriage was one where I could be a full time, stay at home dad while my wife earned us a lifestyle of luxury.
As far as affirmative action goes, that entire consideration helped very few people and it displaced many, many more. The hurt of anything so one sided will always outweigh the help. It was one of the most expensive experiments that our nation has ever attempted and it is still having negative effects on our economy and social structure to this day. Abraham Lincoln said, “You can not help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves”. Job applications should be ‘colorless’, ‘genderless’ and void of bias. Name, contact information, work history and references. Nothing else matters other than can they do the job? After that, everyone starts at the same pay, advances based on performance and stays as long as they are able to perform the task for which they were hired. That guideline has carried me through a few positions when hiring workers and I think it is still the best plan available.
I totally agree with you on the part greed has played in our current economic situation but I firmly believe that the big money players who control our lives have used socialism and feminism the way a surgeon uses scalpels. It is neither accident nor coincidence that so much of this falls in line the way it has. Feminists themselves were mostly pawns but are too stinking arrogant to admit that they were duped. Believe me, I also think there is plenty of blame to go around, but there are only a few places to set most of it.
By the way, I also agree with you about good people being found just about anywhere. We are most often very much alike. Sadly though we may be in a time when the common denominator has dropped a little lower than we might like to admit. Some cultures embrace their traditions and heritage and those are the cultures I most admire today.
Apparently, we may even share a driving philosophy. My rule is the speed limit plus the thickness of the speedometer needle. At that fraction over the limit, I am generally one of the slowest moving vehicles on the road. (but I STAY in the RIGHT LANE where I belong) At times when the traffic gets heavier, I use the ‘speed of the lane I’m in’ mindset. I’d rather not cause an accident by being one of the few people on the road that obeys the law. On the interstate near Seattle I was once stopped for going the speed limit because the cop said I was ‘driving suspiciously’ but he wouldn’t elaborate further.
Ya’ know Sam, I really don’t think my life has been so terribly negative but more like terribly normal. With all of the trials and pitfalls I’ve faced, I’d say my life has been mostly a huge adventure. I was raised in a home where there was very little open affection and even some harsh situations but rarely did feel that there wasn’t a safe place to come back to. We had a tough life while farming partly because it was when we were nearing the end of small independent farms throughout the Midwest and much of the rest of the country. As a family, ours was no ideal situation for sure, and I generally envied what most of my friends had in that regard. But really, I’ve had opportunities that few of my childhood friends have had. I’ve been able to go to exotic countries, meet some pretty famous people and experience things that I dreamt of as a child. I’ve known real love, I’ve experienced real wealth, I’ve had my time in the lime light and best of all I have a wonderful daughter who is the center of my life now. To be honest, I think I’ve had more than I deserve.
I am encouraged by your comments, Richard. I really feared that you were letting the weight of a wayward world destroy you. You are rare in that you care about more than yourself and your happiness. You are the kind of citizen our founders were or envisioned: Smart, principled, hardworking, well-informed, willing to speak your mind without reservation and willing to work for the things you believe in—those things that are bigger than you are.
Unfortunately, most people in government and the private sector are not really principled, not truly conservative or liberal, but merely selfish and self-interested. I saw this on display recently when my local county officials were grasping for ways to cut the budget and secure more revenue. Concerned citizens of every political stripe stood and cried for their programs, their causes, their pet projects, etc., and refused to consider sharing in the pain or sacrificing for the greater good. Private bankers show the same selfishness when they fight efforts to make markets transparent and information timely for everyone. Secrecy, and the ability to horde public information, sometimes just for seconds–literally, are critical to their disproportinate success.
I chuckled when I read your comments about driving. But I think personal responsibility really does begin with such small things as obeying the speed limit, leaving bathrooms cleaner than you found them, letting someone into a thoroughfare, being respectful of others’ opinions, etc. You are right, though, the common denominator is low, very low. Once again, amnesia concerning our fine heritage and values, and maybe just plain ignorance of the facts, works in the favor of the self-interested. You are doing what you can. You are raising the issues, and keeping yourself informed. You are doing your best to teach your daughter to be a woman of principle. I admire you for that. This world needs more of that. I am glad I have had the opportunity to get to know you through your comments, and I look forward to more.
Thank you for the supportive words, Sam. It just may be that enough of us speaking out about our core beliefs could start the shift back in the direction of working for the greater good. Personal responsibility can supply dignity for all.
I haven’t thoroughly read through the comments, and would be really interested to see what people say here. Simply adding this piece of two cents late to a much needed conversation…
One of the easiest ways to control someone is to break them down emotionally so that you have more pliable material to mold into what you envision being ideal. This is practiced by modern cults, and in aggregate is happening to feminist-influenced societies.
Think about the fundamental unhappiness it brings to participants and those standing in the sidelines. Our most basic human need-the one for companionship and someone to understand us-is pitted against the primitive force of sex. It is literally a battle of the spiritual against the physical.
And currently, an overt emphasis on mindless sex is exhalted over strategies to fulfill longterm companionship and love. This is creating extremely unhappy masses that eventually will be molded into something more destructive.
Every woman, deep down inside, no matter how hard she denies it wants to be married to a manly man-someone who will make her feel like a happy little girl and a fulfilled woman. The rock to her turbulent emotions. The larger the cognitive dissonance, the more chaos there is in her and the more likely she is to choosing the wrong path.
Catherine, I feel as though you have taken all my thoughts and put them to paper. There aren’t enough words in the English language to express how happy I am that there are other women out there like myself.
Catherine,
Thanks for your view on this..
You have no idea how many times I’ve fought with various feminists or confused women on this site when I’ve made the same assertions that..
“Every woman, deep down inside, no matter how hard she denies it wants to be married to a manly man-someone who will make her feel like a happy little girl and a fulfilled woman.”
This is so so so true.. but it’s also shocking to see the level and intensity of the denial out there for these women who will angrily fight this statement.
In Russia.. Women are almost universally happy when they see another woman getting married or having a baby.
But in the US it’s certainly a mixed bag especially for the women who have screwed around and missed their train in life. It cracks me up how they often try to “intellectualize” it away as if some confusing or clever spin would somehow save them from the truth of their misfortune.
Catherine,
Wonderfully said. This is such a key piece to the puzzle and this discussion has room for many more voices from observant people like you.
I totally agree about the ease of molding a person’s thinking once they feel unhappy with the status quo. And the precursor to that condition (in my opinion) is how modern NA women have been ‘made’ to feel disappointed, unfulfilled and unhappy by the feminist machine.
In order to rebuild someone’s thinking to your particular mindset, you must first tear down their current thinking. That is exactly what the feminist movement in NA was doing in the 60s and 70s. They made women ‘aware’ of all sorts of fabricated ‘injustices’ which the vast majority of women didn’t believe existed. It was all smoke and mirrors. Happy women were told that they were ignorant fools if they couldn’t see how ‘terribly’ they were being treated. When strong arm tactics failed to ‘convert’ enough followers, the new tactic became the ‘close sister’ ploy. Eventually, after enough trickery and deception, more and more women began to believe the lie, or at the very least accept it as a reasonable possibility.
The mindless sex that you speak of (quite accurately, I might add) is nothing more than the only remaining avenue left for many of these modern women to hold on to as a semblance of emotional security. When they finally awaken to the harsh reality of their folly, they are middle aged, childless and then following the example set by their previously idolized feminist leaders, they become bitter and resentful of any man showing the slightest inclination towards real emotional commitment.
It is exactly as you say, “a battle of the spiritual against the physical” which is as old as all of mankind. Spiritual decency is being lost to instant gratification, and long term relationships are now defined in weeks or months rather than years, much less a lifetime.
I’m looking forward to more of your thoughts and perspectives.
I’m hopeful that this link will work okay because the story is a clear representation of what I mean when I talk about what was referred to as the ‘brainwashing’ of our school children.
Someone please let me know whether or not the article is accessible so that I can try to make available some other way.
http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=1117286
American Teachers Should Revolt : by Peter Heck
The NEA wanting kids to celebrate Mao and the Communist Revolution in China?
This guy was the greatest butcher in human history and deserves a very special place in hell and the NEA wants to celebrate him? If this is the case then the canary in the coal mine is long dead and it’s way past time to get out.
” Mao’s policies and political purges from 1949 to 1976 are widely believed to have caused the deaths of between 50 to 70 million people.” Taken from Wikipedia.
Actually there were 100 million excess deaths in India over China during the same period with Mao attributed with doubling life expectancy.
http://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2010/12/10/mao-zedong-greatest-humanitarian-that-ever-lived/
Wikipedia is not the best source for info on Mao who reported to have banned people who do not take a strictly anti-Communist/Mao stance.
http://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2011/01/11/wikipedia-on-mao/
Last night a friend suggested that I contact a radio talk show host that he knows regarding some of the terrible treatment I’ve been shown in family courts over the past few years. Once I found the web site for the program I saw a bullet for a story about “the betrayal of the feminist ideal” by a woman named Barbara Kay. The article is titled “Who’s oppressing who?” and I gave it a read.
Since Ms. Kay is clearly of feminist background, which she covers in this piece, there are some of the familiar sentiments that hooked every ‘believer’ in the movement at one point or another. However, the article highlights many of the insidious realities which have come out of feminism and most importantly the stand I’ve long held about the duality of feminism. Constantly playing the victim while admonishing those who would assist you is an earmark of the entire feminist agenda and Barbara Kay hits that nail, unapologetically, right on the head.
Just Google the title and check out this article. Note her comments on birth rates and abortions in the west.
There are various things said in this piece that can ruffle some feathers but on the whole, I think it is a must read for those of us who continually look for the voice of reason and validation behind our current state of affairs.
Yea, the Rockefeller’s funded The Woman’s liberation Movement, and many other movements. It is FACT.
Here, have a old quote, it has everything to do with the ruling class.
“The money power preys upon the nation in time of peace and conspires against it in times of adversity. It is more despotic than monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more selfish than bureaucracy. I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me, and causes me to tremble for the safety of our country. Corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the republic is destroyed.
-Abraham Lincoln.
rw_man,
Please don’t give in to conspiracy theories. Rockefeller was a huge ego that would love to take credit for everything.
Women will say that Feminism evolved because men treated them badly and would beat them, desert them and leave them penniless and homeless,etc. This explanation could not be further from the truth, however women need to believe it so they don’t have to see how they are self-interested egos.
Feminism evolved because women, after hundreds of years, grew dissatisfied and unfulfilled with being a wife/mother/homemaker. She couldn’t put her finger on where real fulfilment lay, but looked at how different a man’s life was and decided that was the answer to happiness. Thus woman began the long struggle to become men, but they didn’t realize that by doing so they would suffer the negativity that comes with being a man in the world…and they do a terrible job with it because at the end of the day they aren’t men and they have lost their way.
Most, if not all, modern day women are even more terribly unfulfilled and dissatisfied. If doesn’t hit them until they are in their late 30′s and their beauty is almost all gone and they have nothing but their desperate friends to go out drinking and brunch with. They have some money saved from their career to help them through that long journey of loneliness that lies ahead.
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rw_man,
If you would like to read an excellent book on the origins of Male/Female conflict, I highly recommend “Awakening with the Enemy” by Mark Dillof. He also has an amazing blog I’m sure you would like.
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Micro-chipped population remark strains the credibility of what he claims in the interview.
It’s doubtful that Nick Rockefeller has any family association with the Rockefellers who founded the Standard Oil Company. If anything, he would be several steps removed from the ‘Rockefeller’ family tree and not privy to the Rockefeller family’s actions.
Read the following extract from an article i’m reading and spot the similarities in our society today to what was being taught 300 years ago. I’ve removed an offensive word here but it is in the article. I believe that these tactics have been used on the masses regardless of colour here in the U.K and fathers have discriminated against and undermined for the same effect. I quote ‘You’ve got the WOMAN OUT FRONT AND THE MAN BEHIND AND SCARED. This is a perfect situation of sound sleep and economics. Before the breaking process, we had to be alertly on guard at all times. Now, we can sleep soundly, for out of frozen fear his woman stands guard for us. He cannot get past her early slave-molding process. He is a good tool, now ready to be tied to the horse at a tender age. By the time a boy reaches the age of sixteen, he is soundly broken in and ready for a long life of sound and efficient work and the reproduction of a unit of good labor force. Continually through the breaking of uncivilized savage, by throwing the female savage into a frozen psychological state of independence, by killing the protective male image, and by creating a submissive dependent mind of the male slave, we have created an orbiting cycle that turns on its own axis forever, unless a phenomenon occurs and re-shifts the position of the male and female slaves. We show what we mean by example. Take the case of the two economic slave units and examine them close. http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/Perspectives_1/Willie_Lynch_letter_The_Making_of_a_Slave.shtml
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WKK81LFS8Q
THB IDEAL AMERICAN MOTHER
How She Develops the Best Side of the Child’s Nature – Her Method of Home Training – The Secret to a Happy and Useful Life – The Story of the House Beautiful
By Mrs. Leslie Newman.
A 90 year old lady (Gail Newman) that I’ve recently become aquainted with introduced me to her mother-in-law’s poetry, which included this essay on some sane principles of child rearing. I liked it so much that I read the entire essay for a video. What a contrast to the damage caused by Spock and the anti-family mafia. The essay may be a century old, but, some of it is quite relevant. I hope you enjoy this bit of sanity from a better period.
MOTHER’S MASTERPIECE.
Why do you sing, Mother mine, Mother mine -Why do you smile, all the day?
Why are you patient and happy and kind; Why do you worship and pray?
Beciuse I am trying, my child, my child,
A fit example to be; Because I’m the mother of you, my child,
Because you’re God’s gift to me.
Why do you toil, Mother mine, Mother mine, From dawn ’till the setting sun?
Why do you study far into the night, Why is your task never done?
Because I am striving, my child, my child,
Thru service my Love to show; Because I am trying to teach you how
A beautiful soul to grow.
Why such a friend, Mother mine, Mother mine?
Why does your love never change? Why does there gleam in your wonderful eyes
That far away look so strange?
Because in your Being, my child, my child,
I see reflected God’s plan; Because I am praying to make of you,
Mother’s masterpiece – a Man.
Lilian Leslie Newman
thank you, God smiles at a woman like this