I just heard an unbelievable story from a lady friend of mine who works in a local business office.
A Woman walked into her office and introduced herself as a Manager for a new Marriage Agency in town.
She was specifically pitching “a new service” to the older single women in the office. And there are many of them as you can imagine. These women are at a huge competitive disadvantage because of the great numbers of younger women that are available here.
So the Marriage Agency Lady starts telling the older women (and I need to paraphrase here)..
“Look we know you want to find an American Husband and we are going to do that for you. What we will do is take a photo of you and we will photoshop it and make you look up to 20 years younger. Then we will post this photo along with a profile about you that any American Man would dream about on one of their Dating Sites and then we will start writing letters to Men we find on your behalf. It doesn’t matter if you don’t speak English or if you have a Poor Education we will “change” all of that for you.”
“All you need to do is give us some money and “we will take care of all of this”.. And you will be in business.”
My lady friend who told me this story was completely blown away by the nerve of this Woman and what she was offering.. She was painting a total paradise picture for these older women and was presenting herself as an expert on how to get an American or Western Man.
This Woman started to hand out her contact information and unfortunately she was also scheduling appointments.
My take on all of this is that this is more then likely a two way scam..
First they are scamming the Women here and giving them false hope..
Then they are trying to scam any Men they come into contact with in an attempt to get them to send cash or to have them come over on a classic bait and switch scheme.
Personally I find this to be very depressing and this is the kind of stuff I hate to report because it hurts the cause but it’s still important for all of you Gentlemen to know what you are possibly up against.
Since this Agency doesn’t run their own website and because they put the women they “represent” onto existing dating sites it’s impossible to know right away who is legit and who is not.
However, if I find out any more info on this I’ll let you guys know.
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how old are these women?
Yeah, how old? My age perhaps? I am seeking a lady in her early to mid forty’s.
I just checked with my lady friend and she said that the women were in their 40′s. She also just added that a make-up artist was part of the deal as well so it was a “complete” makeover.
That is why I would emmigrate to Russia or any other Eastern European nation first, then meet ladies in person. The fact one never knows what they’re getting into into with any of these online dating services makes it very unwise to meet women in that manner. All one needs to remember is the fate of that guy who got robbed then murdered in Brazil to realize that online dating services are potential scams, or worse!
Taras
Yeah, a lot of those Russian women on dating websites seem way too good to be true. I’ve done some internet dating in my time and I can tell you that the women almost never look like their photos.
There’s a web site that documents marriage agency scams called agencyscams.com and it provides valuable info as to to which sites are good or not.
Wow, love the blog!
I’ve always liked reading the anti-feminist type instead of the pro; you learn so much more. I especially like the Russian woman stance you take, I’ve heard quite a bit about them but not any actual first hand cases about how different they are from american women.
Not to overthrow your main idea or get off track, but how does a russian-type american girl get a guy? I know a few girls (including myself) who match the descriptions of the women you describe, yet they’re always ignored.
Hey RW man;
I checked out Ian’s suggestion and the Agency scam site is pretty interesting. It lists Agencies, girls and everything else to watch out for.
There is alot of advertising but no mention if these are proven to be known honest and upright sources. Still worth a look-see.
Canajun
Hi Kara,
Thanks for joining us and having an open mind about this material since you are a woman who is wiling to expand your view on things.
Kara beauty is a big deal for Men and for Women as well. It’s the first thing we Men look at because as the Russians say..
“Men fall in love with their eyes.. while Women fall in love with their ears..”
There’s just no way around this in my mind. Sexual attraction is deeply wired into both of our brains but the stimuli which ignites it is different for men and women. As long as you understand this and do everything possible to present yourself as a beautiful and feminine woman then I don’t think you are going to have any problems attracting men to you.
Keep in mind that the demographics of men vs. women also has a key role to play. If you want to load up on attention and medicine for your soul then put yourself in a country or environment where eligible women are very hard to find.
Good Luck and Please Join us Again!
GL
Welcome aboard Kara. From your post, I assume you have Russian ancestry like I do, perhaps you might be able to meet men who have a similar background as yourself. If you’re in an area where there are many Russian emmigres or people of Russian descent, you could meet a guy from one of these families. Also, you would get to see firsthand what Russians as a people are like, at least those who grew up in Russia and not born here. I know women go about things in a different manner than men do, but it stands to reason the best way to start is surrounding yourself with folks who could introduce you to single men who may be interested in you. I admire those who wants to broaden their horizons, and you’re such a person.
Taras
Kara, do you live here in the U.S.? Because when I meet an attractive woman here in the U.S., I just assume that she already has a boyfriend, fiancee or husband.
Kara, when I meet an attractive woman here in the U.S., I just assume that she already has a boyfriend, fiancee or husband. Maybe that’s the reason why you and your friends feel ignored.
Oops, I meant to post #12 only. #11 was just my first draft.
rw-man:
Thanks for the tips! I’m first year college student in an arts program, and I’ve been signing myself up for dancing lessons etc lately to try to become more feminine. I’m not “sexy” by all means, so I’ve taken the other route of trying to appear more, house-wifeish? comfortable and always cheerful. I’ll try to dress up a bit more and see where that gets me.
Taras:
I’m actually a mix of alot of european decendancy, german being my biggest part, with alot of british and mix of russian to italian in there. I live in Canada, so there’s people from all over living where I am. Thank you for the kind words, I’ll definately try to keep them in my mind!
Hero:
I actually live in Canada, but it’s close enough! So I suppose I should try to hint subtly at having an ex, or not being in a relationship at somepoint of a conversation with someone just in case? I haven’t had much experience with telling what men are thinking.
Thanks everyone, I’ll definately stick around and read up on how to catch myself a nice guy who’s been neglected
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Yours Truly
Kara
Just goes to show that opportunists see everyone as potential income. They (scammers)are a continual fly in the ointment when it comes to WM/RW relationships.
RoninRWP
RussianWomanPrimer.com
Hi Kara,
Again you are doing a great job of keeping an open mind in allowing yourself to re-discover your “classic feminine roots” in terms of what characters constitute a “real woman”.
Here’s some more honest perspective that you might find useful.
Any girl can do a tremendous amount to make herself look sexy. This is very true since I see this in action all the time over here in Russia.
I have seen “ordinary looking” out of shape women who dedicated themselves to a real body shaping plan and ended up with super tight bodies that transformed them into hot and sexy looking girls. Honestly, the “tighter” you make your body.. the more Men will fanasize about you and then hope that they are worthy enough to approach you.. You already off to a good start since you are taking dance lessons because women who have a classic “dancers body” almost universally draw a great deal of attraction to them.
Also keep in mind that on average Russian Women eat very small proportions of food in comparison to their typical American or Western counterparts. They are mostly very mindful both of what and when they eat. And as you can see from the photos they are very sexy, trim and healthy as well..
To top it all off they combine all of this with classy looking fashions that seem to perfectly frame their beautiful bodies. Don’t be ashamed to wear dresses, mini-skirts and heals often as long as the weather permits. By doing this you will immediately gain a huge “leg up” (no pun intended) on the other girls around you that prefer to wear sweats and t-shirts.
Again you can use the photos on this site as a guide because all of the ladies you see here dress this way normally and these photos are completely candid. I took them on purpose this way so you can see the natural dress and body shape standards that many Russian Women have for themselves.
In anycase.. If you are able to get physical appearance near to what these ladies are like then you will have NO PROBLEMS..
Don’t try to be too much of a housewife so early on.. Keep in mind that Real Men don’t like to date women who remind them of their mothers! In terms of personality all you really need to focus on is being feminine, gracious and happy.. And I believe you are already off to a good start..
Don’t worry Kara.. Russian Women seem to realize that all good things in life take some work and patience.. and if you are willing to do that then I’m sure you will find the Real Man that you are wanting for in your life.
Cheers! GL
Hi RoninRWP,
I agree with this.. It drives me nuts when I see things like this continuing to screw up the real potential that WM and RW have for each other.
Cheers,
GL
Rw_man, I agree that there’s nothing sexier than a woman who can dance well. I was a HUGE fan of “Dancing with the Stars”. That show took nice looking women and raised their sex appeal to the 10th power.
Hi GL,
First let me congratulate and thank you for your site is real eye opener. I came across this site two days ago and couldn’t stop reading. I completed reading all your sections to the very beginning in July 2006. It took me quite a few Hours in the last 2 nights, but it was worth it.
Now my Story, It all started by me wanting to learn a 3rd language. I chose Russian. I was looking for a good language software in the Internet and I came across a web site named RussianEuro.com. I started looking at the photos of Russian Ladies and that catched my attention (specially because I got divorced a couple of years ago and I’m not currently on a relationship). I decided to pay a month membership (about $30) so I could send direct e mails to the female members. The website operates as a forum to market yourself but it doesn’t look like an Agency, although it looks it does work as an Agency for the girls on the other side (sort of).
Anyway I exchanged some mails with some females but must of them were scammers. But one of them seamed to be honest and gave me her e mail address on the first conversation and her phone number on the second e-mail. I’ve been corresponding with her since mid October and I have talked (if you could call taking to repeating the same 5 phrases every time) to her on the phone 5 times. I don’t speak Russian and she doesn’t speak English. My e-mails are translated by an Agency according to her.
Through these months we have developed a type of relationship, her e-mails have developed from “Dear Art” to “My beloved” or “My dearest” although she never had said that she loves me (me neither). At the beginning she didn’t pay attention at every thing I told her on my mails, i.e. I said I had a 5-year-old son that I loved so much and told her his name, but she didn’t mention that on her mails. At this point I wrote her that I was concerned this was a scam and was thinking to stop my communication. She reply and said that she was a real person and I could call her any time on her cell, she even offered to have a web cam chat so I won’t be so doubtful. Since then her e-mails changed and she paid more attention to them and have continuity. She never asked for money although in early mail she asked me what was my financial situation. She made a point in telling me not to think badly about her for asking that. She explained to me that her interest was not Material, however she had two jobs and she started over by herself after her divorced and she was taking care of her 7 year old. She said I just want to know if we ever end together that you will be in a position to take care of my son and me. She also said that financial problems always affect marriages. Every thing she said sounds very reasonable to me. Even when I called her one day, a friend of mind that speaks Russian was translating and after about 20 mins on the phone she said she was concerned the phone call was going to be expensive for me and that I probably should use that money to spend it with my son.
On another email she asked if I would like to meet her and she told she had vacations from her job on May 2008. I told her that I was planning a vacation to Prague on 2008 and asked her to join me there for a few days. She said that she could not afford a trip like that (she never asked for money, which could have a good opportunity to do so) and that it would be better to me to go there as that is usually what men do when they want to meet Russian Girls. So I’m going to Belarus on May after visiting Prague (my original plan). She offered me to meet me at the airport in Minsk and that I could rent an apartment there and we could stay there or if I proffered I could go to Mogilev (where she lives) and stay at her flat and that I would be a must welcomed guest.
After reading some of your sections, I’m confused about what to do.
Every thing seems to good and so easy, on the other hand I don’t have yet reasons to believe is the other way around. The other issue is about limiting myself to meet only this Girl, on the other hand if she is what she portrays, I wouldn’t mind spend my time with her. I’m not playing games or trying to pick up girls for a fun vacation. But what if…
Do you know anything about RussianEuro.com?
Do you thing this Girl is for real?
What should I do?
Thanks in advance for your input and thanks to all the bloggers for the patience in reading my book
Hi Art,
Thanks for the compliment and actually taking the heroic effort of reading through every post on this site.
Just off the cuff it sounds like you are dealing with the real deal. She is right that you must go to her country first. It’s not appropriate in my opinion to just meet in some 3rd country on your “first dates” so to speak. You need to see her culture, home and family.. it’s very important that her family meet you and give their approval on who you are as a man. You are in for a serious eye opening experience when you do this and it will make you a better man.. trust me on this one.. so don’t forgo it..
I would just schedule your trip, run with it and be prepare for an international adventure.
Hope this helps..
GL
Thanks for your prompt reply GL,
Your info really helps but I just saw her profile on the RussianEuro.com was switched off. I sent an email to them asking if she decided to delete her profile from the website or if it was done by them. I explained to them my plans to visit her and everything. They reply saying even though they don’t suppose to disclose any info on the members; they could tell me it was them who decided to delete the profile after investigating that member. So now I don’t know what to do. She said previously that the Agency that took care of translating the e-mails she received had her permission to sign in the site to retrieve any messages. Could it be possible that was the Agency staff the one that did something wrong? I can’t believe that she is a fake. She doesn’t even speak English. ( meaning she doesn’t have the tools to manipulate me).
Do you provide among your services verification that the other person is real? I have her Address and Phone number in Mogilev. I have pictures of her too. I don’t trust the agencies on the net that offer this type of services, as you said they are mostly handled by Russians. I want somebody that covers my back and you seam the type of person to trust after digging up in your site.
Can you tell me more details about your services? Can you help me making sure she is real?
Thanks,
Hi Art,
Thanks for the endorsement.. Can you go ahead and contact me offline about this issue at galacticlove at gmail.com
Thanks..
GL
I met a girl in this site, and sure i had doubts about her being genuine, i never lost her before we even met, But when i saw her for the first time wow she was amazing, we met many times, I wanted to marry her, my advice to anyone, get to know them first well, don,t rush to meet, my girl was from family of very rich, I was a child of the thatcher era, we were poor family in council estate, there were differences, but worth it